FE takes sky Sundays

[talian21]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is not what happened. I am not spewing nonsense Lammy. The people who did it may have told you that. But it just isn't fact. Fact is they intentionally targeted FE's time slot because it was all they could do. Again I have no reason to lie to you or anyone or spew any nonsense. It benefits me in no way.

Time to stop feeding the trolls, Lazie; it went from funny to repetitive to boring quickly...






-Silisk, ikky necro

[Lammy]

We're having a discussion, not everything has to be trolling and RNF material

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What have I been "proven" to lie about to benefit myself? I wasn't at this said sky raid today, and I asked you to legitimately tell me what happened a few posts ago and you refused to answer. Oh well, I tried.

I already told you what happened. I can't help your reading comprehension skills are lacking completely. A raid was called this morning by Lord Bob to intentionally beat FE to their time slot. It was perpetrated by former TMO members. Either that or 3 people at that raid are lying to me. They could be who knows ? However, the modus operandi of select members of TMO was exactly what happened this morning.

Another Modus Operandi is to deny it and politic it after. Exactly what you are doing now when presented with the truth.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're having a discussion, not everything has to be trolling and RNF material

Agreed. I don't hate any of these people I am discussing this with. I do think they have too much ingrained loyalty to their guild and hate towards a guild they competed with. As I am sure the other guild has similar feelings that needs to be worked through. But I have no reason to hate or lie to these people. It isn't benefiting me.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A raid was called this morning by Lord Bob to intentionally beat FE to their time slot..

Thank you

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already told you what happened. I can't help your reading comprehension skills are lacking completely. A raid was called this morning by Lord Bob to intentionally beat FE to their time slot. It was perpetrated by former TMO members. Either that or 3 people at that raid are lying to me. They could be who knows ? However, the modus operandi of select members of TMO was exactly what happened this morning.

Another Modus Operandi is to deny it and politic it after. Exactly what you are doing now when presented with the truth.

I got that part, and I asked you how is it 3 TMO members can have the sway to "make" every other person in that guild attend the raid?

[Widan]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lord Bob went up to sky and while they were up there, invited a few random friends who happened to be TMO members because TMO members were bored due to suspension and chaos and sky is just about the only thing that we are aloud to currently raid.

Please post evidence from the GM's confirming that you are allowed to raid with other guilds in alternate time slots.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got that part, and I asked you how is it 3 TMO members can have the sway to "make" every other person in that guild attend the raid?

Well they definitely can if any of their friends have authority in the guild. And the guild leader is ex TMO, and probably friends with them. I mean it isn't unreasonable to think just one person can propose an idea and convince others to follow. This isn't far fetched at all.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that Lord Bob guild does not represent TMO as a whole. can you really lump them all in together while at the same time saying they are no longer a guild?

i'm not necessarily saying that TMO should have been able to keep their spot. i do, though, think that instead of just calling "shotgun Sunday!" FE should have perhaps expressed their desires in the official Sky rotation thread and asked what other people thought.

isn't the whole "gotta grab it quick before someone else does!" mentality sort of what most people dislike about TMO?

Pharma, I recognize how the situation presents itself as a "Forceful Entry" into sky, however our response to "Shotgun Sunday" was after one of our officers tried to negotiate with Lord Bob after we ported up to sky to find their guild already there. There response to us was, "I don't give a fuck about your rotation, fuck off"... Not sure if this is just Lord Bob's way of making friends on the server or a continuation of ex-TMO leadership's "Divine Right" mindset.

I used this forum and the responses of many players to gauge whether or not Forceful Entry would continue to pursue Sunday as a time slot and from my understanding, with the exception of ex-TMO, we have nearly unanimous support. If there are any concerns I can address beyond this, I welcome PM's or /tells.

[Lammy]

You guys are grasping at straws right now.