First to Engage: Exploiting the mechanic?

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the single most retarded argument I have heard in regards to velious. The only reason that other guilds have not killed hoshkar is because of training; when VP was on rotation, IB had killed Hoshkar consistently with fewer people.

Hoshkar - or any 32k mob which you can just melt down with over 30 people - is not a standard in any way for velious content.

IB never killed the quadding beefed up old version of Hoshkar legit. They'd bug out the AoE then kill it.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol......just lol.

Well, you guys would often throw your small force (because people wouldn't log in anymore after getting epics) at VP dragons until they died (often because they stopped AEing). Hoshkarr was the one it happened on regularly.

[Rellapse35]

LOL @ BDA bunch of nonfactors HAHAHAHAHAH

[pasi]

I wonder how much of that is chalked up to aggroing the entire zone or the CT script.

[Brut]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder how much of that is chalked up to aggroing the entire zone or the CT script.

Well, I've seen several of those 100+ player Trak socks in the day, and it's basically the same story.
US crowd with good connection survive the lag, but much everyone else is going to desync the moment autoattacks are flipped on.

And don't you need the key to go to Cobalt Scar and the zones beyond there (I think it's quest only at first?)? Kael is fastest access raid zone, it's going to be ridiculously crowded in there.

[uygi]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And don't you need the key to go to Cobalt Scar and the zones beyond there (I think it's quest only at first?)? Kael is fastest access raid zone, it's going to be ridiculously crowded in there.

You need the portal shards. The run through Velious really doesn't take that long.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder how much of that is chalked up to aggroing the entire zone or the CT script.

The problem the server has is that it has to update the position of N 'things' to M players. So with 100 players and 100 mobs it has to send 200 position/velocity tuples to 100 players multiple times per second. So from the server's perspective each update is 200 units * 100 players * 50 bytes (assuming 25 bytes header and 6 4-byte position/velocity fields) = 1MB. If you're trying to do this 10 times per second that can add up, and remember this is a quadratic algorithm. Quadratic algorithms do not scale well.

If we assume there is only 1 mob, it's pretty easy to solve for the number of players which will cause the same number of updates: 140.

There isn't really a good solution to this, but its probably better to gracefully degrade under pressure and update less frequently and hopefully in a semi-intelligent manner.

[pasi]

You can kill Ziglark for the key.

Posted @ Sat, Dec 16th 2000 2:43 AM Score: Default[2.00]
He drops a "Shrine Key". Used to enter Cobalt Scars from clicking on the dragon with the fire pot in the "Court Yard" area in the little pond.

Posted @ Sat, Jan 6th 2001 7:12 AM Score: Decent[3.00]
Actually he does both, if you kill him you get the key, if you do the quest you get the key, just matters what faction you want to keep.

No need to quest it - he's level 30 or something with a few level 30 friends.

[Brut]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can kill Ziglark for the key.

No need to quest it - he's level 30 or something with a few level 30 friends.

Oh, coo. Was wondering if he'd be dropping it early Velious or if that was added later.

Huge sadface tho knowing some retarded knobends will permapoopsock & delete all keys to cockblock half Velious content.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, coo. Was wondering if he'd be dropping it early Velious or if that was added later.

Huge sadface tho knowing some retarded knobends will permapoopsock & delete all keys to cockblock half Velious content.

As a fellow SK, run up to Yelinak. Maze = right, left, forward, back. Aggro a bunch of shit on the way then click the portal behind Yelinak. This will port you to the Wakening Land zone-in. Proceed to go right and then left into Ziggy's room. Patiently await as the entirety of Skyshrine comes to protect Dear Ziggy.

Alternatively, there's the bridge above the CS/fountain room where you can jump/levvie down. Alternatively, there's the fake floor on the right side of the fork past the FehDhar ascent that drops you to near the Dragon Tooth Choker guy.

You may eat a suspension, but Ziggy will be safe and sound.