EQNext Discussion

[Novoselic]

Beta signups are available btw. Get em here https://www.everquestnext.com/

[liveitup1216]

I knew it wasn't going to be a remade EQ1 so I wasn't disappointed. From a modern mmo perspective, the game sounds phenomenal compared to what's out there. I'm hoping they make it hard still and take out that get-out-of-the-fire tell graphic. Still eager to see the class design, travel, death, and actual combat UI. I don't have high hopes for meaningful death/travel/combat, but one can sort of hope.

[Barrier]

I may be in the minority, but go to The Steel Warrior and look at some of the articles about damage and how warriors mitigated it. That to me was EQ.

All these abilities like whirlwind and charge and all that crap, bring it down. I want combat where the math nerds sit all day and parse damage and come up with all sorts of formulae on how damage works.

[Breeziyo]

Originally Posted by Barrier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I want combat where the math nerds sit all day and parse damage and come up with all sorts of formulae on how damage works.

They already do that with pretty much every MMO out there. One thing that comes to mind is WoW's fansite "Elitist Jerks".

The only thing that changes is instead of figuring out how to auto attack the best you figure out how to incorporate skills into your damage as well.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Barrier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I may be in the minority, but go to The Steel Warrior and look at some of the articles about damage and how warriors mitigated it. That to me was EQ.

All these abilities like whirlwind and charge and all that crap, bring it down. I want combat where the math nerds sit all day and parse damage and come up with all sorts of formulae on how damage works.

That existed in WoW. You had abilities, in fact warriors had whirlwind, yet there was still lots of parsing involved at the high end to break down what worked best.

I think it looked great, still has lots of work to be done but I'm excited to return to norrath.

A big difference today from back then is that there are too many hardcore gamers who just destroy content (that mindset was first developed in EQ) and the spread of MMO information is too great. Back in the day forums and allakhazam were basically it, now each game has its own wiki before release. Beta players explain everything to their friends and the information quickly trickles down into guides and videos, I mean shit people created a mod in WoW that showed you exactly how to do quests and gave you a check list/organizer to keep it in order. That wasn't the developers originally it was from players.

While lots of us like to think that our little pocket of MMO players on P99 are deserving of some ultra difficult game where mistakes can equal hours of lost time, we need to admit that unless we create it ourselves (just like Nilbog recreating EQ) it's never going to happen. No one is going to make a game that caters to this crowd, they can eat from the subscriptions none of play. Couple that with the way everyone complains about the "pay to win" model and how the fuck are they supposed to pay for anything off the P99 culture?

You guys want a ramped up EQ Classic? Make it yourselves. I've played this game 10 years ago. I killed AoW, Vulak, and ogre walled Tunare. I love the competition, I loved the very real rush that came from killing a mob the 1st time with rival guilds breathing down your neck. I loved the way players became legends on my server and how rivalries formed, players switched sides, and deals were struck behind the scenes. I hated that another guild released the sleeper right after I got my key. That shit was awesome, but it's gone. P99 will never recreate that because you can't expect a game to have an expansion once every 3 years and still keep the best players. All we get is an initial rush of hardcores rolling through content then getting tired and going to play something else. Velious will be fun, but it will lose its allure after a few months just like Kunark did. EQ Next at least promises something new that we've never experienced before. That video made me want to play an INT caster for the first time in my life.

[moe]

fuck all this 'make it yourself' bullshit. you gotta be kidding me

no more comments, just that. i dont believe you really think that

[Rust1d?]

I wonder if people remade the zones from EQ1 if they would put them in...

[SamwiseRed]

^i was thinking the same thing.

also on other forums i browse, alot of people that arent eq fans love this fucking game. i keep seeing, this is what guildwars 2 should have been. no idea if thats good or bad, i never played guild wars or guild wars 2 but the non p99 crowd seems to think this is the next big thing. maybe nothing can please the p99ers except re-releasing eq exactly how it was in classic.

[Talgurin]

If this game has instanced loot, like EEO is going to have, then I will never play it. It's why I uninstalled Diablo 3 after a week.

[citizen1080]

Video clips looks straight outta wow...