Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again for me it isn't about just VP. Sure it would be nice to get rid of it in VP for true competition without some weird version of PVP via training.... It is about future zones on the server too...Not many people on this server want to endure griefing because it is a culture that was started what 2 years ago ? Let go of the grudges and make the competition fun without burning people out of the game. You won't lose your position because training ends. You still have the tools to mobilize and win races.

vianna honestly it been 3 years
if u dont mind me little english i could tell you actualy there was back in the day a rotation wich worked for TR and TMO for long time for vp.

TMO did honour the rotation BUt TR backstabbed us and broke the deal 3 dragons of vp per week for each guild.

TR broke off and reformed IB in secret and while tmo was in sky doing sisters they actualy attemp to kill 2 of the dragons of the tmo rotation .
so we backfired with trains to the betrayal of ib .
since them every guild in vp has been dealing with Trains over tmo or trying to drive tmo or just plain and simple fuck of tmo when zone upon vp.



FE tried hard in train wars at first they where succesfull lots of delays and their only dragon kill in vp happened and that made them push even harder in train wars .

but time passed and they never got another dragon so they train war was pointless and with time they just give up with the random 3 or 4 people zoning trying to train but with new invis emchanics they die quite fast

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

vianna honestly it been 3 years
if u dont mind me little english i could tell you actualy there was back in the day a rotation wich worked for TR and TMO for long time for vp.

TMO did honour the rotation BUt TR backstabbed us and broke the deal 3 dragons of vp per week for each guild.

TR broke off and reformed IB in secret and while tmo was in sky doing sisters they actualy attemp to kill 2 of the dragons of the tmo rotation .
so we backfired with trains to the betrayal of ib .
since them every guild in vp has been dealing with Trains over tmo or trying to drive tmo or just plain and simple fuck of tmo when zone upon vp.



FE tried hard in train wars at first they where succesfull lots of delays and their only dragon kill in vp happened and that made them push even harder in train wars .

but time passed and they never got another dragon so they train war was pointless and with time they just give up with the random 3 or 4 people zoning trying to train but with new invis emchanics they die quite fast

Yeah it is old grudges that can be resolved to make this a healthier place to raid for everyone. No one is asking for hand outs. TMO is still the largest guild and still can mobilize fast for the targets they want. They won't stop being the top guild simply because training stops in VP. It will however balance the playing field across the board more.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it is old grudges that can be resolved to make this a healthier place to raid for everyone. No one is asking for hand outs. TMO is still the largest guild and still can mobilize fast for the targets they want. They won't stop being the top guild simply because training stops in VP. It will however balance the playing field across the board more.

u mean so we can live massive popsocks again and unitentional train than happens very frequently at trak ledge?.
i did more popsocks in 2013 thanks to FE than back in the TR ib+vd days.and atleats abck in the day we had india trvia to amuse both guilds.

i dont see why always we play the card of faster mobilization when we know FE desire a mob is perfectly able to keep from 3 to 4 groups in a spot for 7 days if needed.

Hell if even FE name was picked up as a insult towards tmo , what u guys espect we suddenly turn nice and shake hands?.


i will give you credit about ur comments about bad blood. it still exist and tas is one of the main promoters .

realy you think if FE leadership seek tmo leadership for a civil way to rule out a nicer system of raids it will work with such people?.


back in the day after tmo finished with ib and we had no real competitor as VD showed a great lacking on eladership and people .

tmo was enough nice to share a dragon the infamous endangered species . and it end backslash us because people begon to insults,



as i told you im a old player of solusek ro server and its just as simple as kunark is to small to keep 2 uber guilds happy and since unlike live we had tons of alts its way and simpled fucked up more.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

u mean so we can live massive popsocks again and unitentional train than happens very frequently at trak ledge?.
i did more popsocks in 2013 thanks to FE than back in the TR ib+vd days.and atleats abck in the day we had india trvia to amuse both guilds.

i dont see why always we play the card of faster mobilization when we know FE desire a mob is perfectly able to keep from 3 to 4 groups in a spot for 7 days if needed.

Hell if even FE name was picked up as a insult towards tmo , what u guys espect we suddenly turn nice and shake hands?.


i will give you credit about ur comments about bad blood. it still exist and tas is one of the main promoters .

realy you think if FE leadership seek tmo leadership for a civil way to rule out a nicer system of raids it will work with such people?.


back in the day after tmo finished with ib and we had no real competitor as VD showed a great lacking on eladership and people .

tmo was enough nice to share a dragon the infamous endangered species . and it end backslash us because people begon to insults,



as i told you im a old player of solusek ro server and its just as simple as kunark is to small to keep 2 uber guilds happy and since unlike live we had tons of alts its way and simpled fucked up more.

No one says you have to like us. Just that you compete on an even playing field with us. You will still get a lot of what you go after and we may get some as well. But at least we won't have the training to infuriate each other further. Listen I got no problem with any of ya and honestly wish ya the best in the game and in life regardless what happens with this. I am just pointing out that it can be easier and more balanced for everyone without all the grudges and anger that gets caused because of a culture of training that started a few years ago.

[Ele]

So nice that we can have a reasoned discourse amongst players. Oh wait we can't. Time for a new thread.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So nice that we can have a reasoned discourse amongst players. Oh wait we can't. Time for a new thread.

Atleast the poll offered us a glimpse into the current mindset of the playerbase, even if a miniscule sample of the server's population!

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atleast the poll offered us a glimpse into the current mindset of the playerbase, even if a miniscule sample of the server's population!

Should of opened the poll to only people with VP keys btw

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should of opened the poll to only people with VP keys btw

Fail to see how that is relevant considering there will be others keyed for VP in the future who have a stake in this discussion.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fail to see how that is relevant considering there will be others keyed for VP in the future who have a stake in this discussion.

yeah but out of those 200 players who voted 80% won't evens see a Trakanon kill let alone VP.


Why should i care what they think about it

[khanable]

People want training in VP
People don't want training in VP

I'm the guy that just wants to watch all the training, shit is probably hilarious to see

Someone set up a 24/7 VP entrance stream so I can watch this shit