5 Great Reasons to Wipe it Clean

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. The economy is not a problem. You can buy a fucking cloak of flames in EC for 135k! You can buy a FBSS for 10k! The people bitching about the problem are retards who think they should be able to get dragon loot after 20 hours of farming Seafuries.

listen to splorf. he speaks the truth.

Originally Posted by bled12345 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He gets more time by resetting the server because he has 2 years to finish velious, not sure how that doesnt compute with you lol.

he can take 2 years from now for all i care. you're still not making any connections to a wipe suggestion.

[purist__]

insignificant but vocal minority who only play EQ for greed and items: no wipe

overwhelming majority of noble playerbase who are here for classic EQ nostalgia and to have fun: wipe it clean

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is invalid argumentation.

"Those making the demands" have already given copious reasoning as to why they would desire something like a new server, just look at the 5 or 6 threads currently going right now on the topic. Here's a couple of highlights:

- Non-classic timeline resulting in abnormally long Kunark era. This has produced very high mudflation (look of the definition of mudflation if you need to).

- RMT and item duping have further exacerbated the economy problems. Granted, a fix to these two issues would need to be implemented before a new server was established.

The point is, "onus" is a moot point when "those making demands" (I would reword to "those giving reasons why they desire a new server") have to comply to your personal reasoning and preferences to decide whether they are legitimate or otherwise. Thus, invalid argumentation.

your whole damn argument is invalid. RMT isn't going away with a new server, dumbass.

if the timeline bothers you so much, quit playing. no reason to drag the rest of us down for your selfishness.

[Norrath]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your whole damn argument is invalid. RMT isn't going away with a new server, dumbass.

if the timeline bothers you so much, quit playing. no reason to drag the rest of us down for your selfishness.

Wow - that didn't take long. Here's to at least trying to have a reasonable conversation over the internet.

One quick thing:

Let me repeat what I posted, word-for-word, about RMT/duping and a new server, and I'm going to put it in bold to really help you read it and understand it.

"RMT and item duping have further exacerbated the economy problems. Granted, a fix to these two issues would need to be implemented before a new server was established."

So, before you lose your cool and start calling people "dumbasses" and such, please make sure you have thoroughly read and comprehended your opponents "invalid argumentation" before spewing around like an un-held firehouse.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow - that didn't take long. Here's to at least trying to have a reasonable conversation over the internet.

One quick thing:

Let me repeat what I posted, word-for-word, about RMT/duping and a new server, and I'm going to put it in bold to really help you read it and understand it.

"RMT and item duping have further exacerbated the economy problems. Granted, a fix to these two issues would need to be implemented before a new server was established."

So, before you lose your cool and start calling people "dumbasses" and such, please make sure you have thoroughly read and comprehended your opponents "invalid argumentation" before spewing around like an un-held firehouse.

hey look, asshole: all of your threads are riddled with ad hominem attacks and passive aggressiveness, but you get excited at being called a dumbass. the RNF section is made for people like you, try posting there instead.

[Norrath]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hey look, asshole: all of your threads are riddled with ad hominem attacks and passive aggressiveness, but you get excited at being called a dumbass. the RNF section is made for people like you, try posting there instead.

Let's get real specific then - give me an example of an ad hominem attack I've used. Also, give me an example of you actually responding to anything I've said, or showing any kind of respect to anyone with a different opinion than yours.

[Peener]

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's get real specific then - give me an example of an ad hominem attack I've used. Also, give me an example of you actually responding to anything I've said, or showing any kind of respect to anyone with a different opinion than yours.

To quote the great Patton Oswalt on respecting differing opinions and beliefs:

"You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs." No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: “That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?" I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!"

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

give me an example of an ad hominem attack I've used.

i've got two in the last 2 pages alone.

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems those campaigning to resist the opening of a new server are acting selfishly as well b/c they don't want to lose player base to something they don't personally desire.

here you make a point by calling players who disagree with you selfish.

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow - that didn't take long. Here's to at least trying to have a reasonable conversation over the internet.

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me repeat what I posted, word-for-word, about RMT/duping and a new server, and I'm going to put it in bold to really help you read it and understand it.

Originally Posted by Norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, before you lose your cool and start calling people "dumbasses" and such, please make sure you have thoroughly read and comprehended your opponents "invalid argumentation" before spewing around like an un-held firehouse.

these three are even from the same post.

[purist__]

Originally Posted by Rhuma7

All I see from you, is separation anxiety.

[bled12345]

Gentlemwn stay on track, have a hate fest in private messages, so far there have been great points all through this thread with no rnf feel, would love to see it maintain that path [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]