FE destroys Draco/CT, powerless TMO struggling with numbers wipes 3 times ragequits.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It looks like Kunark was completed (PD downed) june 19th on Fippy, and AoW was downed on August 29th.. so that's roughly 6 weeks.

wow, you the man, i knew it wasn't to terribly long! thanks for the info

[kotton05]

So its just a matter of getting the MT NToV/quest/dragon set then setting up a cheal rotation for days, i understand, i raided in pop so these era's im just learning.

Im just curious as I've heard a few diff stories, Quading for 1k will def down most players, have you ever killed Kazen in Lake rathe 40? Do any other mobs in kunark hit as hard as Kazen does? I think with evasive he was still hitting 1k doubles maybe? But his hp's a stupid low.

and 6khp for a tank is like as min max as you can get i'd think.

I'm changing my estimate to 3 months, think that sounds fair.

[47shadesofgay]

Apologies for Quadra post haha.. but june 16th - august 29th = 2 months and 13 days.. and that was with almost 60-

[quido]

Yeah shades you're right - context is important - but those aren't really parallel situations. It's really a "woulda shoulda coulda" sort of situation without knowing how it would have gone had the circumstances been different.

[kotton05]

Na, i quadra post is diff when its not a rage / rant imo.

60... thats a good bit of folks, wonder how many tanks/clerics. Doesnt donal's event get nerfed, so would need to get kill outta the way b4 donals gets changed?

[47shadesofgay]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Na, i quadra post is diff when its not a rage / rant imo.

60... thats a good bit of folks, wonder how many tanks/clerics. Doesnt donal's event get nerfed, so would need to get kill outta the way b4 donals gets changed?

Velious came out on 12/5/2000
Donals nerf was on 02/21/2001: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010221a.html

So Donal's should be nerfed about 2.5months after Velious comes out.. but you never know here.

[falkun]

Weren't the first AoW kills on Live utilizing charmed giants for tanks and then healing them? Pet aggro is so pathetic on this server that NPC tanking won't work unless ONLY NPCs are doing damage. That's a lot of mages/enchanters/necromancers/SKs(lolpet). Are there animals for druids to charm in Kael?

[47shadesofgay]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weren't the first AoW kills on Live utilizing charmed giants for tanks and then healing them? Pet aggro is so pathetic on this server that NPC tanking won't work unless ONLY NPCs are doing damage. That's a lot of mages/enchanters/necromancers/SKs(lolpet). Are there animals for druids to charm in Kael?

I could be wrong, but I believe this was the first serverwide AoW kill: http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-12-02

That was like 2 days before Luclin came out, and almost a full year after Velious release. It took 2 guilds working together, and Vulak was on farm by then.

I would conservatively say at least 3 months on P99 assuming Mitigation and Damage coding is proper, but you never know.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could be wrong, but I believe this was the first serverwide AoW kill: http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-12-02

That was like 2 days before Luclin came out, and almost a full year after Velious release. It took 2 guilds working together, and Vulak was on farm by then.

I would conservatively say at least 3 months on P99 assuming Mitigation and Damage coding is proper, but you never know.

They beat him a few weeks earlier, but they "cheated" and had charmed giants tanking. Can't work here due to how pet aggro works.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weren't the first AoW kills on Live utilizing charmed giants for tanks and then healing them? Pet aggro is so pathetic on this server that NPC tanking won't work unless ONLY NPCs are doing damage. That's a lot of mages/enchanters/necromancers/SKs(lolpet). Are there animals for druids to charm in Kael?

a Drakkel Dire Wolf
Animal
Class: Warrior
Minimum Level: 52
Maximum Level: 56
Known Habitats: Kael Drakkel
Double for ~240ish, bash and can dual wield.

At least that's how it went on live.

As for P99, it all depends on how Kael Drakkel gets released. Poeple weren't supposed to kill stuff in PoSky for a bit, yet they petted/charmed the fuck out of it. If charmed giants are allowed here, I don't see AoW living for a long period of time.

If the raiding community decides to kill him, he's probably dying on day one. There are enough warm bodies to throw at him, and enough cleric epics to ress people faster than he kills them. Throw in the charmed pets actually doing the majority of the dps, and you can go all 'Kerafyrm' style on his ass.

Also remember,
Guaranteed ST keys = Klandi/Zlandi, Sontalak, Lendi and Yelinak (iirc)=probable high priority targets (at least the easiest ones) for TMO/FE/Who ever is the top p99 guild during the first day/days.
Chance for ST key = Deracor the Vindicator, Statue of RZ, King T (Velketor too?)=Good plan for 3rd spot guild, they are all in the same zone except Velke; and you add in Idol and ultimately Avatar.

tl;dr
Charmed giants and wolves + 150 warm bodies + 20 cleric epics = good zerg chance for anything inside Kael (including AoW).