My America

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by ShadowWulf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TAXI: You read anything off of Z-Net? You might like it, or not, but the articles are fascinating though some should be taken with a grain of salt. Several articles on the G20 as well just got posted. http://www.zcommunications.org/journ...jesse-freeston

Yep been a reader since 1998

This is a website similar to Z-net, if you dont know about it:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/

The articles are usually solid. I say usually because the article on top at the moment actually isnt. It draws some hasty conclusions about people being provocateurs, not enough evidence to warrant that article for sure. But articles like "The Global Political Awakening and the New World Order" are really interesting and well researched.

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[Shannacore]

Hahahah

[blizzil]

As a Proud, Long Term, Liberal Activist, I will continue to do as I've always done.


I will continue to OPPOSE:
*Increasing the Power and Wealth of For Profit Corporations.

*Increasing Military Spending (Decrease by 50% immediately)

*Continuing the phony WAR in the Middle East (Out Now)

*A Free Pass for War Criminals and Torturers

*The Privatization of our Common Wealth and Common Responsibilities, including Social Programs

*The use of the "Secrecy" classification to avoid civilian oversight


I will continue to SUPPORT:
*Medicare for anyone who wants it

*The immediate break-up (Trust Busting) of everything "Too Big to Fail".

*Fair Competition Legislation that lets Mom&Pop (small locally owned businesses and farms) compete with Big Box and Factory Farms on a level playing field.

*An end to "Free Trade" (Race to the Bottom)

*Organized LABOR and local co-ops.

*An end to the two-tiered Judicial System

*Prosecution of rich American War Criminals and War Profiteers. (Oh yes they did!)

*An END to "Corporate Personhood"

*Strictly Enforced Publicly Financed Elections (severe penalties for criminals)

*Transparent and Verifiable elections (Why isn't this a front burner issue with the Democratic Party?)

*Re-Regulation with strict oversight of Banking/Investment, Transportation, Communications, Trade, Energy, Utilities, and Insurance.

*NO Public Money for private Prisons, armed Private Police, armed Defense Contractors, private intelligence agencies, or For Profit Health Insurance Corporations.

*Immediate Civil Rights and Equal Protection for ALL. (No Exceptions)

*Free Quality Universal Education to everyone who wants it.

*Strong Social Safety Net and Consumer Protections.

*An end to The Patriot Act and a return to The Constitution.(especially Habeas and privacy protections)

*A refutation of the "Unitary Executive", and legislation to ensure it NEVER happens again.

*An END to Republican/Corporate influence INSIDE The Democratic Party !
(NO! They DON"T deserve a seat at the table!)

These are values I strongly believe in. I have fought for these values long before I ever heard the name "Obama", "triangulation", or "Centrist" Democrats. I will keep fighting for these values no matter who is in the White House.

It is an "Issues" thing, not a matter of Political Personalities.
When politicians move toward the above, I will support them.
When they move away, I will oppose them.

I have been deeply disappointed over the last year as the White House has made concession after concession to Republicans, but when the Progressive Democrats held out for the Public Option, or opposed increased WAR funding, or offered up a Pro-LABOR challenger to an entrenched Anti-LABOR Senator, The White House sent the Winged Monkeys after them....Chicago Style.
I have seen no such effort to bend Centrist" Democrats or Republicans to his will during the first 1 -1/2 years of the "CHANGE" administration.

I don't expect to get everything, but I DO expect respect for these values, and a voice in the Party that is asking for my money and support.
If a Political Party does not at least acknowledge these values and give them a seat at the table,
I will find another Party that will.
If these values are no longer welcome in the d party, so be it.
If Standing Up for these issues and pointing out when the Democratic Party falls short is seen as an attack on the President...so be it.

"We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.” People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

*The right of every family to a decent home;

*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

*The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.--FDR

FDR's Economic Bill of Rights

THIS is the Democratic Party I joined
THIS is the Democratic Party I love.

I find that my FDR/LBJ Democratic values are increasingly unwelcome in the Democratic Party, and has been construed as "not supporting the President" by some.
I disagree.
The very best thing I can do to support the Democratic Party and President Obama is to point out where the Party and our Leadership have drifted away from these values, and to call out for a return to the Working Class values that the Democratic Party once embraced.


The govt is what we make it. If you dont like it, vote and change it.


"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."
--- Paul Wellstone

[Qaedain]

I promised myself that I wouldn't get involved in this thread, but I was wondering if you could elaborate on these topics? I have no opinion, really, just wondering how you might go about it.

*The immediate break-up (Trust Busting) of everything "Too Big to Fail".

*Fair Competition Legislation that lets Mom&Pop (small locally owned businesses and farms) compete with Big Box and Factory Farms on a level playing field.

[blizzil]

Could be done a few different ways, mostly through strong regulation via govt bodies (whove been systematically defunded since 1980)

Teddy Roosevelt did it, we can do it today.

[Qaedain]

Originally Posted by blizzil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could be done a few different ways, mostly through strong regulation via govt bodies (whove been systematically defunded since 1980)

Teddy Roosevelt did it, we can do it today.

What I mean is, how do you propose big boxes could be regulated so mom'n'pops could compete on price? Price floors/ceilings? Supply restrictions?

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by blizzil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could be done a few different ways, mostly through strong regulation via govt bodies (whove been systematically defunded since 1980)

Teddy Roosevelt did it, we can do it today.

Not all corps are ebil. It’s just a small percentage that consider themselves international with no strings attached to any particular country or to foreign countries or entities(e.g. British Petroleum). Regulation within the US geared towards restricting corporate business usually effects the smaller and/or domestic company (mom-n-pop’s) rather than any real threats. Anytime you make a decision to empower government to regulate anything, it usually results in the little guy getting hurt, even yourself in one way or another. Remember what Reagan said "Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem". And I think it is even more so true today than it was then, as now politicians are pretty much indentured to special interest pockets. Time to throw all the bums out!

Btw fdr can shove it. “Liberal activism” has only led to larger and larger government (from both parties), while if it had gotten smaller as the founding fathers intended, we would not be in such a mess as we are. Your big lists of government programs is appalling, government owes you nothing other than being massively downsized so the people can better control it once again as it was intended to be.

[blizzil]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember what Reagan said "Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem".

So that makes it true?

He sold the country out for the sake of short term profits and shipped all the mfging base to China

You can quote him all you want

But its wrong :P

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by blizzil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So that makes it true?

He sold the country out for the sake of short term profits and shipped all the mfging base to China

You can quote him all you want

But its wrong :P

Who said Reagan was perfect? ..I mean besides what you claim, which is debatable. His comment was correct, but he was not perfect and thus what he said is void? Your post is missing punctuation, thus your comment is null and void. :P

...but wtg, how to totally sidestep the context of the post and try to turn it into a meaningless debate. Ah well...