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[mickmoranis]

wait... are you guys arguing over a bunch of dead mens honor?

[mickmoranis]

by the anyway anyone got a running count of Palestinians genocided? Boy I sure do hate nazis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lune]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wait... are you guys arguing over a bunch of dead mens honor?

What's it have to do with their honor? People got drafted to go kill each other and as far as they knew they were doing it to defend their country, and I respect that. Has nothing to do with nitpicking about whether the US is truly talented at war or just mediocre.

[mickmoranis]

Ok so this is a debate about which country is the most skilled at war?

Hmm thats tough.

I'm goign to go with north korea.

Never been beat, never will be beat, literally says its at war with every country for 50 years, genocides hella more people than hitler and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Close second, Israel.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so this is a debate about which country is the most skilled at war?

Hmm thats tough.

I'm goign to go with north korea.

Never been beat, never will be beat, literally says its at war with every country for 50 years, genocides hella more people than hitler and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Close second, Israel.

 

It's Germany

[mickmoranis]

Id entertain that, but I dont know much about germany and their military, great country, bad at handling imigration though.

Can you quote me a strong argument why cuck gertmany is a better military might than a military might that literally is undefeated for 50 years and in a perpetual war the whole time?

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of those areas were industrialized, developed with infrastructure, or otherwise capable of supporting resource production to fuel the Japanese war effort, which is why it's a well-known fact they were plagued by crippling supply/resource issues throughout the war & part of the reason why their planes, cities, and aircraft carriers were made out of WOOD.

Extreme intelligence, lol. The average Japanese person at the time was like 5' tall due to vastly inferior nutrition, and if you're applying modern IQ tests to their population at the time I'd be surprised if they were more intelligent at all, on average.

And you're god damn right demographics and geography are important. Ask Hitler or Napoleon about the Russian winter and capacity for defense-in-depth, and see how it goes waging war against a country with 10x your population and industrial capacity.



Against hawkish, chest-thumping American militarism, every time. Also went too many pages without disagreeing with someone

I'm the hawk arguing against a war with Syria that a Frenchman wants us to take the lead on because "Assad has chemical weapons" even though the same guy complains about "Irak" when Saddam killed 500,000 Iranians and used chemical weapons both in that war and against his Kurdish population. I'm not sure how that works

[Lune]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id entertain that, but I dont know much about germany and their military, great country, bad at handling imigration though.

Can you quote me a strong argument why cuck gertmany is a better military might than a military might that literally is undefeated for 50 years and in a perpetual war the whole time?

Pretty much goes back to before the beginning of the Prussian state and their strong martial tradition. basically a cultural fixation on the making of war. Their military was highly organized and they pioneered the modern professional army / chain of command / etc. Fast forward to around WW2 and it's the same thing on steroids, where they basically laid the foundation for the way the modern US military works, pioneering the utilization of blitzkrieg warfare, combined arms, mechanized infantry, airborne assault, strategic bombing, and logistical interdiction, which were all promptly adopted by the Allies.

Very different from modern Germany though where it's not like that anymore but they are still ruthlessly efficient and could probably do it again if they wanted.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm the hawk arguing against a war with Syria that a Frenchman wants us to take the lead on because "Assad has chemical weapons" even though the same guy complains about "Irak" when Saddam killed 500,000 Iranians and used chemical weapons both in that war and against his Kurdish population. I'm not sure how that works

Called the US hawkish, not you

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much goes back to before the beginning of the Prussian state and their strong martial tradition. basically a cultural fixation on the making of war. Their military was highly organized and they pioneered the modern professional army / chain of command / etc. Fast forward to around WW2 and it's the same thing on steroids, where they basically laid the foundation for the way the modern US military works, pioneering the utilization of blitzkrieg warfare, combined arms, mechanized infantry, airborne assault, strategic bombing, and logistical interdiction, which were all promptly adopted by the Allies.

Very different from modern Germany though where it's not like that anymore but they are still ruthlessly efficient and could probably do it again if they wanted.

yea I see what you mean.

now what if I told you north korea had 50 years of a cultural fixation on the making of war, but then also added in, that they succeeded in hitlers plan of building a generation of citizens with eugenics, puting all family bloodlines of people who rebel into concentration camps?

Surely that has to have made them the god king empire of warriors by now?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea I see what you mean.

now what if I told you north korea had 50 years of a cultural fixation on the making of war, but then also added in, that they succeeded in hitlers plan of building a generation of citizens with eugenics, puting all family bloodlines of people who rebel into concentration camps?

Surely that has to have made them the god king empire of warriors by now?

No the difference is they're very bad at it.