New (old school) opinion

[mr.miketastic]

Originally Posted by Yukface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mr mikenoobtastic, i do have to give you credit on one thing, although you are obviously too dumb to understand the argument in this thread and as such continue to post pointlessly, still managing to add zero relevant information, somehow, you do an outstanding job of hiding your reason for defending lameness so vehemently.

Are you a necro, who is sitting on a camp (or camps) and have nothing better to do while you wait hours for a pop so you post here? (i doubt it, because you dont seem that dedicated, two level 10s)

OR,

Are you a level 10 who sucks so bad you cannot find a group that will have you, so in the interim you have found a worthwhile purpose to continue your pathetic excuse of a life by posting here. (noting you have yet to add any significant form of logic)

OR,

Are you just plain too stupid to realize no one here gives a shit what you think anymore, you have had your chance to say something valuable and continue to pop your greasy acne zit-juice of noobness all over our thread.

Can we all just ask you to please just stop posting in this thread, find another thread... you have a better chance of not sounding like a total moron there. Here all hope is lost.

So basically, your only argument against what I say is to resort to online thuggery, and attack me despite your overwhelming ignorance about me.
I actually have no need to defend myself from your absurd assertions, or, I guess I could say you know two things about me; Jack and shit, and Jack left town.
Now that we have settled your grotesquely ignorant ranting about my circumstances. You are the stupid shit who rolled in here moaning like a little bitch about the camp rules here, and, managing to insult a good part of the playerbase.

Your manner denoted some incredibly arrogant sense of superiority over everyone here, and you tried to cover up for your overweening pride by saying " Well, I just speak my mind" Well there is nothing wrong with speaking your mind, but it is another thing altogether when you act like a fuck shit stack, and you sir, are a stack of fuck and shit.

Furthermore, you pathetic excuse of a syphilis infected cum bubble from the depths of a pseudo-amateur porn queen's ass, this is not your fucking forum, nor is it your fucking emu server so if you can only bitch, moan and whine about the rules...fucking leave, and take your sock puppet(s) with you.
Good day sir!

[Taxi]

lol i go camping for a weekend and this shit is still goin on

[mr.miketastic]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol i go camping for a weekend and this shit is still goin on

AND YOU LOVE IT!

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[eqgamer]

Mr.Miketastic - You've shown zero credibility that you can make a valid argument about anything being discussed here. Although your childish rant on Yukface was mildly entertaining, the fact remains that you're a fucking twat with no intelligible conversation to add to this discussion.

With such a vivid imagination of such things as that which comes from the depths of a porn stars ass, I'd say you've spent a decent amount of time researching the subject. So, congrats on your future in cheap adult novel writing.

[mr.miketastic]

Originally Posted by eqgamer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mr.Miketastic - You've shown zero credibility that you can make a valid argument about anything being discussed here. Although your childish rant on Yukface was mildly entertaining, the fact remains that you're a fucking twat with no intelligible conversation to add to this discussion.

With such a vivid imagination of such things as that which comes from the depths of a porn stars ass, I'd say you've spent a decent amount of time researching the subject. So, congrats on your future in cheap adult novel writing.

Thank you Mr. Sockpuppet_01. While I appreciate your concern about credibility, you have about as much as I do regarding this thread. I think I could extend the same advice to you as I did, perhaps a bit too profane, to Yukface: If this server's rules creates undue anguish in your life, you should consider leaving for another server where you will be catered to.

Now let's address the rant shall we?

The reason I had to resort to such pithy language, is that it seems Yukface had a hard time understanding normal language, so I decided to try communicating in whiny-ass-prickese so he would understand. If you do not like what I write, you are cordially invited not to read it. However, if you are that easily trolled, and get that upset over text, I foresee lipitor and angina meds in your future.

[pickled_heretic]

The point that I tried to make about slavery was that "If you don't like it, just leave" does not support an argument. If someone views something as genuinely wrong and they are an ethical person, they're not going to leave; they're going to try to change it. Instead of insulting them by telling them they should leave you should try to find reasons why things should stay the way they are. I'm not saying I agree with the OP or anyone else here, I'm just saying that I'm annoyed by the "don't like it? just leave" argument.

[mr.miketastic]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point that I tried to make about slavery was that "If you don't like it, just leave" does not support an argument. If someone views something as genuinely wrong and they are an ethical person, they're not going to leave; they're going to try to change it. Instead of insulting them by telling them they should leave you should try to find reasons why things should stay the way they are. I'm not saying I agree with the OP or anyone else here, I'm just saying that I'm annoyed by the "don't like it? just leave" argument.

Frankly, I am just here to play. I think if the OP had approached the community in a different way, let's say, NOT beating his chest and assuming a pose of superiority then I think there would have been more agreement.

I will admit to being an asshole, and Yukface and Eqgamer. I apologize for writing the inflammatory things I did,and I hope that we can sincerely put this all behind us.

Now, let's think about the issue at hand. Think about root cause. We have more and more players but the content remains static. Throw in the people who can and will lock down certain spawns and camps, and you have frustrated players having to farm platinum to buy the items that they would rather have had the chance to get normally.

New content, like Kunark, should go a long way towards shifting the camps away from the classic content, and thus giving people a better chance of getting drops.
Moreover, the new content will probably necessitate some tweaking of the server rules, so there is the possibility of change in the offing. I think the powers that be could be considering this though they do not publicly state so.

But, at least for me, the rules are the rules and until they change they should be adhered to lest they become more draconian because of actions like training, killstealing and other assorted thuggery.

[eqgamer]

It rather sounds to me that you're making the argument that "Oh, well when Kunark is released, all the asshole farmers will be in Kunark instead and the rest of the suckers that had no chance before can now farm crap items in original."

Let's face it - there is NOTHING ethical about holding a high-value item camp for such long durations via storing items on corpses. There is nothing ethical about "handing off" camps to friends rather than giving it over to the next person in line. I haven't seen a SINGLE group camping the FBSS since I started going to LGuk weeks ago. I'm bound right next to the zone line and visit every night.

And although I haven't been witness to it personally as I'm not 50 and raiding yet, from what I hear, the raiding on this server is a fucking joke. 12+ people AFKing in a zone to "claim" the raid target? Give me a fucking break. Half the fun of original content raiding was the competition and snap-organization that went into downing the spawns. I'd have to question anyone's validity of experiencing original raiding that said otherwise.

And what Pickled said remains true - perhaps throwing your arms up and saying fuck it is acceptable means to handle a situation for yourself - it is not for me. So I'll rant and flame til I'm blue in the face to try to convince even a single person here that the camping rules on this server need changing.

Oh, and on a side note, I found this leak of the original PNP which outlines camping and KSing. How it was back then, and how it should be now, on a true "classic" server. For your viewing pleasure: Original PNP

[mr.miketastic]

Originally Posted by eqgamer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It rather sounds to me that you're making the argument that "Oh, well when Kunark is released, all the asshole farmers will be in Kunark instead and the rest of the suckers that had no chance before can now farm crap items in original."

Let's face it - there is NOTHING ethical about holding a high-value item camp for such long durations via storing items on corpses. There is nothing ethical about "handing off" camps to friends rather than giving it over to the next person in line. I haven't seen a SINGLE group camping the FBSS since I started going to LGuk weeks ago. I'm bound right next to the zone line and visit every night.

And although I haven't been witness to it personally as I'm not 50 and raiding yet, from what I hear, the raiding on this server is a fucking joke. 12+ people AFKing in a zone to "claim" the raid target? Give me a fucking break. Half the fun of original content raiding was the competition and snap-organization that went into downing the spawns. I'd have to question anyone's validity of experiencing original raiding that said otherwise.

And what Pickled said remains true - perhaps throwing your arms up and saying fuck it is acceptable means to handle a situation for yourself - it is not for me. So I'll rant and flame til I'm blue in the face to try to convince even a single person here that the camping rules on this server need changing.

Oh, and on a side note, I found this leak of the original PNP which outlines camping and KSing. How it was back then, and how it should be now, on a true "classic" server. For your viewing pleasure: Original PNP

*shrug* [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[jilena]

I don't think that gay ass "let's suck each other's cock and share the camp" PnP shit came out til post Kunark. At least I never encountered anyone who was a big enough asshole to try and abuse it til well into Kunark. Just saying.

I have a necro. I have camped frenz for extended periods of time. Every single time I wanted that camp, I had to log in at the asscrack of dawn, get on the list, and sit there for 4-10 hours until the camp was mine. What the fuck is stopping anyone else from doing this? Just forcing your way in on some guy who has been there for 16 hours with no drop is a pretty dick move imo. If people are being too crazy with storing lore items on corpses maybe make that shit bannable? I don't care about that. Starting the whole forced rotation on exp/loot camps bullshit is gay as fuck. I'd rather have them just remove all rules and let people who can KS do so than be forced to share. *shrug*