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08-22-2022, 10:32 AM
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08-22-2022, 12:28 PM
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I'll post an example so Troxx can follow suit if he wishes to on his Mage:
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A single set of Bane of Nife + Envenomed Bolt costs 745 mana. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZxMlJSCDc using this video, it looks like you can Torpor recover mana at around 14 mana per second. If you include C2, it is more like 16 mana per second. This means you can recover the 745 mana in 46 seconds. That is easily the length of a fight if Enchanters are fighting 2 mobs with charmed pets. This means the DPS is generally sustainable too.
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08-22-2022, 06:53 PM
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Just going to repost this in the hopes people actually read it.
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To set the root/rotting method straight, this example is root/rotting three mobs in one room while the two Enchanters are killing in another room. Epic + Pox + Paralyzing Earth on 3 mobs costs 1600 mana. The DPS is (1425 + 2088) / 108 seconds = 32.5 DPS per mob. I can recover that mana in 100 seconds if you read how quickly a Torpor Shaman can recover mana in the quote above. This means I could do 97.5 DPS, not including my pet. Based on the logs above, the pet is adding another 15 DPS. So a Shaman could do 110 DPS roughly with this method, and recover all of the mana by the time the DoTs expire. This is above Troxx's standard 80 DPS, and the 104 DPS if we use a Mage Epic Pet instead. Again, Epic Mages are quite rare, so I wouldn't be expecting that DPS most of the time when a Mage joins your group. Sadly Mage DPS isn't anything special at level 60. It is why most Mages end up being CoTH bots.
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08-22-2022, 08:31 PM
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We can do a sanity check on these relative values by assuming the real dps of one of the characters and calculating what that would imply the real dps of the others to be. If we assume 90 dps for Troxx it puts the sk at 52 dps and the monk at 55. If we assume 110 dps for Troxx it puts the sk at 64 dps and the monk at 67. If we assume 60 melee dps for the sk (plausible to me based on parses I've done in seb), it would put Troxx at ~103 dps. | |||||
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08-22-2022, 08:37 PM
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His 72-175 DPS claim (which wasn't the screenshot he posted) means very little, because we don't know how he hit 175 DPS. My Shaman can easily hit 175 DPS too, but it wouldn't be sustainable. I doubt his 175 DPS is from anything other than an unsustainable Nuke chain. But if he provides logs, I could easily be proven wrong. I posted the exact logs of my fight, so you can calculate it yourself if you don't believe it. Anybody with a 60 Mage can hop on the game and do this: Quote:
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08-22-2022, 10:19 PM
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I swear you’re just being obtuse now. I have already explained to you that it gets weird when you compile fights. Another way to think of it is this … however much dps a raid geared monk can dish out with 15/18 and 15/20 … I was basically doubling that just by sicking the pet and lobbing the same 825dd nuke over and over. C’mon buddy, enough with the straw man arguments. Rub dem brain cells together
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