Who is the best car/truck manufacturer?

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

because now I don't know what a normal mini is.

Sure you do. It's what you have when you're cruising or driving normally without thrashing the thing. Unless you drive like a maniac you aren't normally using more than a fraction of your power. You described it as in the sub-ton class. Even expecting you're using metric tons, Minis are usually regarded as in the 2500 pound class. What weight reduction has it undergone?

Minis are alright as city cars, especially for dudes who don't have children, but I don't trust any gasoline engine that has forced induction for street usage. They never last as long as the same engine without the turbo or supercharger--I regard such vehicles as good candidates for leasing. To be sure, it's not like thirty years ago when a turbo might last 80K miles while the regular version could go 140K. It's more like the turbo will last 130 and the non-turbo, maybe 200. Depends on how much boost it runs at and how often the turbo kicks in. It may well outlast your desire to keep it.

Danth

[Gustoo]

Just so everyone knows, Toyota is the best car manufacturer by all measures of what a car should be without debate when it comes to making vehicles that do vehicle things reliably.

Other companies have other virtues but they are not as good at being cars. Honda would be second best, followed by everyone else significantly further behind.

[Patriam1066]

I’d go Honda then Toyota but agreed

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’d go Honda then Toyota but agreed

Camry means Crown iirc.

Toyoda is the name of the founding family,
But that might mean health or abundance.

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[Toxigen]

Sure, you're right...but there are car guys out there that would disagree.

Like me.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, you're right...but there are car guys out there that would disagree.

Like me.

Toyota, Subaru: Perfectly good companies that don't actually build anything I'd ever want to buy. Too bad. I wish they would. I'm sure they'd do a good job of it.

Danth

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Toyota, Subaru: Perfectly good companies that don't actually build anything I'd ever want to buy. Too bad. I wish they would. I'm sure they'd do a good job of it.

Danth

I briefly owned a 2006 Subaru STI in rally blue. 300hp 300tq. I have owned a 2013 Honda Si for longer and enjoy it more.

I did feel more confident in the Sti doing 110mph in the rain.

Edit: Allegedly 110mph, these are internet stories.

06-07 'Falcon Eyes' model.
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[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I briefly owned a 2006 Subaru STI in rally blue. 300hp 300tq. I have owned a 2013 Honda Si for longer and enjoy it more.

I did feel more confident in the Sti doing 110mph in the rain.. and hit that puddle. If you think that was a dumb thing to do, fair enough. The guy in the mustang wanted to go, he let up at 90.

Thats how I feel about my Benz.

I could be going down the road at 120 and take a hand off the wheel for a sip of coffee...while hearing zero road noise over my smooth jazz.

(not that I do this, but I could)

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats how I feel about my Benz.

I could be going down the road at 120 and take a hand off the wheel for a sip of coffee...while hearing zero road noise over my smooth jazz.

(not that I do this, but I could)

*nod*

right.

More refined, smoother, faster and convenient.
Computers are the same way.
STEAM

[Byue]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I briefly owned a 2006 Subaru STI in rally blue. 300hp 300tq. I have owned a 2013 Honda Si for longer and enjoy it more.

I did feel more confident in the Sti doing 110mph in the rain.

Edit: Allegedly 110mph, these are internet stories.

I'm a city boy but before the city, to get experience a a cook, I did hotels in the countryside and I remember going in gaspesie ( it's bordering the ocean but picture buttfuck nowhere) and I made friend with the barman and he was fond of cars. He had four. I remember he laughed at the mini but he drove it and like it. It handles like a gokart, a lot of fun to drive but then he shown me his baby.

A modified, turbo charged subaru with something like 700HP.

You know, the kind of guy driving 260KM/H (161MP/H) in tight roads cornering the ocean, at night, while it is raining.*

I felt like welp, life was nice I'm going to die now.
Some people enjoy speed.
I don't.

Well, yeah but not that fast on shitty Quebec roads. ( Quebec has the worst roads in Canada and Canada already have shitty roads )

Anyway, my point is Toyota make unkillable cars but who tf want to drive them.