Lent.

[Gwaihir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...&v=pvPsJFRGleA Holy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4wYkS8Z3Io Truth be Told

[Gwaihir]

I'll give it a listen, but TBH it's difficult to follow your train of thought because you're not completing your thoughts, you're just throwing up what-abouts, which are easily reconciled to my view. Like, you're leaving me to finish your incomplete "whatabout" thoughts for you.

In reviewing it as a 40 minute debate format this will have to be put aside till later.
I'm at work right now, for another 2 and a half hours, but I'll give it a listen tonight while I'm slowly dashing my way home.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll give it a listen, but TBH it's difficult to follow your train of thought because you're not completing your thoughts, you're just throwing up what-abouts, which are easily reconciled to my view. Like, you're leaving me to finish your incomplete "whatabout" thoughts for you.

All I ask is that you up the hammers, brother.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll give it a listen, but TBH it's difficult to follow your train of thought because you're not completing your thoughts, you're just throwing up what-abouts, which are easily reconciled to my view. Like, you're leaving me to finish your incomplete "whatabout" thoughts for you.

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:

Electricity---------\|/-----------Resonant Frequency
------------------Energy----------------
Magnetism--------/|\-----------Thunder

based on my journy, im pretty much in sync with bret

the book of revelations is history, not prophecy

daniel was a cultural icon, created to define how to be a jew, a citizen of a state, that had no state (after they were sacked by babaylon)

the torah is a guide on how to be a jew, and a citizen of a state, of a stateless state.

it is just culture, and history, so the jews who had no home, could remain one cohesive culture.

And for 6,000 years it has worked extremely well.

I believe its all governance, revolution, and of the mortal coil.

I believe it all happened, not exactly as its stated, but it all happened, and its no different than marxism, or the history of china, or the foundation of the united states. That religion is governence, culture, history, and revolutions.

Edit: that said, I pray its real because I want it to be. Im hoping eonk is not fanfiction, and is like, a deeper dive into the reality of our universe.

But I bet its just a 3000 year old copy of Twilight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think that our life on earth, the collective we, started at an astroid impact where lake victoria is now, and the DNA of whatever was on that rock mixed with our DNA and created the humans, that would later destroy the native neandertals.

But that is my own personal history of us, and by no means expect anyone to agree with that nonsense.

But its so damn suspect! that lake has 1 river that goes directly to EGYPT where the first major civilization was founded.

And they love snakes there, and I think that they are the serpent. And when they (a traveling salesman from egypt) traveled to Mesopotamia where the Sumerians settled in what seemed like paradise, they (the traveling salesman) sold them (the still tribal sumarians) goods that were invented by Egyptians: makeup, Jewry, clothing and introduced them to the idea of an economy, this is the sin that the sumarians later wrote about where a snake dressed man made them sinner's that needed to cover themselves and filled them with jellousy, because it turned the paradise of sumeria, into a warzone of vanity and greed.

OR maybe that last part happened, sans the astroid, and then you have an extremely pragmatic, realistic, historical event, that would make the writings of genisis actually make sense in context of mortal life on earth.

This is the sin that was introduced when adam and eve bit into the apple https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exh...t/egcl06e.html

I believe that story of adam and eve is a embellishment that was told at campfires, of what actually happened, that the largest tribes leaders bought the apples and all the other stuff the salesman had to sell, then when he left they all started killing each other and blamed the salesman. It's the plot to gods must be crazy basically. Only instead of a coke bottle thrown from a airplane, a salesman came on a wagon and gave it to them.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:



based on my journy, im pretty much in sync with bret

the book of revelations is history, not prophecy

daniel was a cultural icon, created to define how to be a jew, a citizen of a state, that had no state (after they were sacked by babaylon)

the torah is a guide on how to be a jew, and a citizen of a state, of a stateless state.

it is just culture, and history, so the jews who had no home, could remain one cohesive culture.

And for 6,000 years it has worked extremely well.

I believe its all governance, revolution, and of the mortal coil.

I believe it all happened, not exactly as its stated, but it all happened, and its no different than marxism, or the history of china, or the foundation of the united states. That religion is governence, culture, history, and revolutions.

Edit: that said, I pray its real because I want it to be.

What you're failing to understand is:

The past doesn't truly "exist". There is only "NOW". "Time" is illusory. It doesn't really matter if Christ exist(ed) because the conceptualization EXISTS NOW; just like it exist(ed) with Thoth, Horus, Hermes, Jesus, etc.

You really should look into this matter more.
This means, that any one of us has the potential to BECOME Christ.

Gravity is a phenomenon in which "matter" is attracted to "matter" and it doesn't matter how far away we go from God, the Gravity of his love brings us back together.

Sin----------\|/---------Obedience
-----------Gravity-----------------
Distance----/|\---------Redemption

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:



based on my journy, im pretty much in sync with bret

the book of revelations is history, not prophecy

daniel was a cultural icon, created to define how to be a jew, a citizen of a state, that had no state (after they were sacked by babaylon)

the torah is a guide on how to be a jew, and a citizen of a state, of a stateless state.

it is just culture, and history, so the jews who had no home, could remain one cohesive culture.

And for 6,000 years it has worked extremely well.

I believe its all governance, revolution, and of the mortal coil.

I believe it all happened, not exactly as its stated, but it all happened, and its no different than marxism, or the history of china, or the foundation of the united states. That religion is governence, culture, history, and revolutions.

Edit: that said, I pray its real because I want it to be. Im hoping eonk is not fanfiction, and is like, a deeper dive into the reality of our universe.

But I bet its just a 3000 year old copy of Twilight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think that our life on earth, the collective we, started at an astroid impact where lake victoria is now, and the DNA of whatever was on that rock mixed with our DNA and created the humans, that would later destroy the native neandertals.

But that is my own personal history of us, and by no means expect anyone to agree with that nonsense.

But its so damn suspect! that lake has 1 river that goes directly to EGYPT where the first major civilization was founded.

And they love snakes there, and I think that they are the serpent. And when they (a traveling salesman from egypt) traveled to Mesopotamia where the Sumerians settled in what seemed like paradise, they (the traveling salesman) sold them (the still tribal sumarians) goods that were invented by Egyptians: makeup, Jewry, clothing and introduced them to the idea of an economy, this is the sin that the sumarians later wrote about where a snake dressed man made them sinner's that needed to cover themselves and filled them with jellousy, because it turned the paradise of sumeria, into a warzone of vanity and greed.

OR maybe that last part happened, sans the astroid, and then you have an extremely pragmatic, realistic, historical event, that would make the writings of genisis actually make sense in context of mortal life on earth.

This is the sin that was introduced when adam and eve bit into the apple https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exh...t/egcl06e.html

I believe that story of adam and eve is a embellishment that was told at campfires, of what actually happened, that the largest tribes leaders bought the apples and all the other stuff the salesman had to sell, then when he left they all started killing each other and blamed the salesman. It's the plot to gods must be crazy basically. Only instead of a coke bottle thrown from a airplane, a salesman came on a wagon and gave it to them.

my man jibartik bringing the historical materialism. epic Shit .

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:

Electricity---------\|/-----------Resonant Frequency
------------------Energy----------------
Magnetism--------/|\-----------Thunder

It is easy to follow, because I've already laid out the precepts for following it.

Electricity and Magnetism are interrelated phenomenon; knowing that they are an inter-related phenomenon is HOW our modern electronics work. We, as a whole, know this truth, because we utilize it constantly, both physically (sound being physically converted into electromagnetic phenomenon within the mind, and electronically).

What is a radio wave? (a wave that oscillates between being an electrical wave, and a magentic wave)
and
that wave is capable of carrying "information" (energy) which is then translated on the receiving end into a resonant frequency, which is translated into SOUND, video, etc
Technically, it could even be split back into Electricity, which is what Tesla was working on.

are you going to argue that these 4 constructs of energy are not related? That would be a really really really ignorant position to take considering the practical applications all around you proving this truth.

[Jibartik]

So the me that started typing this sentence, doesn't exist, because by the time I hit post quick reply I will be 10 seconds in the future?

Sorry, history is real, it happened.

If you want to talk about what is on the other side of the mirror, the only way is to go there.

Im all for imagining what happens then, but I'm more confident you'll be able to figure out what's there when you figure out what happened in our past, because you'll understand how we got to where we are now, and where we may go in the future.

For when the time comes, if it does, the other side of the mirror doesn't care if you knew about what was there or not. If it did, it would have told us.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the me that started typing this sentence, doesn't exist, because by the time I hit post quick reply I will be 10 seconds in the future?

Technically, because it takes time for our eyes, brain, other neurological systems and etc. to receive the sensory input and comprehend reality as we know it, everything one might consider to be the "present" is actually the "past".

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Technically, because it takes time for our eyes, brain, other neurological systems and etc. to receive the sensory input and comprehend reality as we know it, everything one might consider to be the "present" is actually the "past".

Funny you would mention this.

Are you aware that back in 99/00 the first True AI was developed, which encountered a fatal system error when it came to processing the conceptualization of "Time"?

Axsys was the name of the system. The travails of the system are detailed on the CCRU.net website. http://ccru.net/ (there's a lot of gnostical and demonic subtext in the exploration of the system as well, where the creators were essentially convinced that they had tapped into contact with a luciferian entity which seemed to drive the project for them once initial contact was made: this is why Electricity and Magnetism are situated on the LEFT HAND SIDE of the Cross.) *wink*