Lent.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll give it a listen, but TBH it's difficult to follow your train of thought because you're not completing your thoughts, you're just throwing up what-abouts, which are easily reconciled to my view. Like, you're leaving me to finish your incomplete "whatabout" thoughts for you.

All I ask is that you up the hammers, brother.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll give it a listen, but TBH it's difficult to follow your train of thought because you're not completing your thoughts, you're just throwing up what-abouts, which are easily reconciled to my view. Like, you're leaving me to finish your incomplete "whatabout" thoughts for you.

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:

Electricity---------\|/-----------Resonant Frequency
------------------Energy----------------
Magnetism--------/|\-----------Thunder

based on my journy, im pretty much in sync with bret

the book of revelations is history, not prophecy

daniel was a cultural icon, created to define how to be a jew, a citizen of a state, that had no state (after they were sacked by babaylon)

the torah is a guide on how to be a jew, and a citizen of a state, of a stateless state.

it is just culture, and history, so the jews who had no home, could remain one cohesive culture.

And for 6,000 years it has worked extremely well.

I believe its all governance, revolution, and of the mortal coil.

I believe it all happened, not exactly as its stated, but it all happened, and its no different than marxism, or the history of china, or the foundation of the united states. That religion is governence, culture, history, and revolutions.

Edit: that said, I pray its real because I want it to be. Im hoping eonk is not fanfiction, and is like, a deeper dive into the reality of our universe.

But I bet its just a 3000 year old copy of Twilight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think that our life on earth, the collective we, started at an astroid impact where lake victoria is now, and the DNA of whatever was on that rock mixed with our DNA and created the humans, that would later destroy the native neandertals.

But that is my own personal history of us, and by no means expect anyone to agree with that nonsense.

But its so damn suspect! that lake has 1 river that goes directly to EGYPT where the first major civilization was founded.

And they love snakes there, and I think that they are the serpent. And when they (a traveling salesman from egypt) traveled to Mesopotamia where the Sumerians settled in what seemed like paradise, they (the traveling salesman) sold them (the still tribal sumarians) goods that were invented by Egyptians: makeup, Jewry, clothing and introduced them to the idea of an economy, this is the sin that the sumarians later wrote about where a snake dressed man made them sinner's that needed to cover themselves and filled them with jellousy, because it turned the paradise of sumeria, into a warzone of vanity and greed.

OR maybe that last part happened, sans the astroid, and then you have an extremely pragmatic, realistic, historical event, that would make the writings of genisis actually make sense in context of mortal life on earth.

This is the sin that was introduced when adam and eve bit into the apple https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exh...t/egcl06e.html

I believe that story of adam and eve is a embellishment that was told at campfires, of what actually happened, that the largest tribes leaders bought the apples and all the other stuff the salesman had to sell, then when he left they all started killing each other and blamed the salesman. It's the plot to gods must be crazy basically. Only instead of a coke bottle thrown from a airplane, a salesman came on a wagon and gave it to them.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:



based on my journy, im pretty much in sync with bret

the book of revelations is history, not prophecy

daniel was a cultural icon, created to define how to be a jew, a citizen of a state, that had no state (after they were sacked by babaylon)

the torah is a guide on how to be a jew, and a citizen of a state, of a stateless state.

it is just culture, and history, so the jews who had no home, could remain one cohesive culture.

And for 6,000 years it has worked extremely well.

I believe its all governance, revolution, and of the mortal coil.

I believe it all happened, not exactly as its stated, but it all happened, and its no different than marxism, or the history of china, or the foundation of the united states. That religion is governence, culture, history, and revolutions.

Edit: that said, I pray its real because I want it to be.

What you're failing to understand is:

The past doesn't truly "exist". There is only "NOW". "Time" is illusory. It doesn't really matter if Christ exist(ed) because the conceptualization EXISTS NOW; just like it exist(ed) with Thoth, Horus, Hermes, Jesus, etc.

You really should look into this matter more.
This means, that any one of us has the potential to BECOME Christ.

Gravity is a phenomenon in which "matter" is attracted to "matter" and it doesn't matter how far away we go from God, the Gravity of his love brings us back together.

Sin----------\|/---------Obedience
-----------Gravity-----------------
Distance----/|\---------Redemption

[Jibartik]

So the me that started typing this sentence, doesn't exist, because by the time I hit post quick reply I will be 10 seconds in the future?

Sorry, history is real, it happened.

If you want to talk about what is on the other side of the mirror, the only way is to go there.

Im all for imagining what happens then, but I'm more confident you'll be able to figure out what's there when you figure out what happened in our past, because you'll understand how we got to where we are now, and where we may go in the future.

For when the time comes, if it does, the other side of the mirror doesn't care if you knew about what was there or not. If it did, it would have told us.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All religions are historical fiction. Hope that helps.

Fixed that for you

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the me that started typing this sentence, doesn't exist, because by the time I hit post quick reply I will be 10 seconds in the future?

Technically, because it takes time for our eyes, brain, other neurological systems and etc. to receive the sensory input and comprehend reality as we know it, everything one might consider to be the "present" is actually the "past".

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fixed that for you

https://youtu.be/GzjYmpwbHEA?t=629

Dont use antivaxer logic.

Religion is history.

Its not fiction.

if you look at all the rules in the torah, they are more akin to keeping you culturally Jewish, than they are keeping you free from any kind of sin.

The first 5 commandments are a moral contract to god, the second 5 are literally how to run an economy. It's a constitution. A bill of rights. I mean he brought it down from the mountain, after he was sick of watching his people dance and screw on stage while drinking cows blood lol his "people" needed a goverment, and in the wildlands in a kingdom with no army, 10,000 years ago, the way to do that is with religion.

for those that hate religion, ask yourself, what is it you hate? I bet the answer is something like: It's not complete information or outright lies, it forces people to do horrible things, and is ignorant of science and the truth.

That's just goverment lol

If you hate religion, you dont hate religion, you hate MAN... you're just using religion as a scapegoat.

Religion is nationalism, without a nation.

It's just politics and culture.

But it is not fiction any more than democrat and republican is.

They all shoot bolts of death from the clouds at the innocent.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:



based on my journy, im pretty much in sync with bret

the book of revelations is history, not prophecy

daniel was a cultural icon, created to define how to be a jew, a citizen of a state, that had no state (after they were sacked by babaylon)

the torah is a guide on how to be a jew, and a citizen of a state, of a stateless state.

it is just culture, and history, so the jews who had no home, could remain one cohesive culture.

And for 6,000 years it has worked extremely well.

I believe its all governance, revolution, and of the mortal coil.

I believe it all happened, not exactly as its stated, but it all happened, and its no different than marxism, or the history of china, or the foundation of the united states. That religion is governence, culture, history, and revolutions.

Edit: that said, I pray its real because I want it to be. Im hoping eonk is not fanfiction, and is like, a deeper dive into the reality of our universe.

But I bet its just a 3000 year old copy of Twilight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think that our life on earth, the collective we, started at an astroid impact where lake victoria is now, and the DNA of whatever was on that rock mixed with our DNA and created the humans, that would later destroy the native neandertals.

But that is my own personal history of us, and by no means expect anyone to agree with that nonsense.

But its so damn suspect! that lake has 1 river that goes directly to EGYPT where the first major civilization was founded.

And they love snakes there, and I think that they are the serpent. And when they (a traveling salesman from egypt) traveled to Mesopotamia where the Sumerians settled in what seemed like paradise, they (the traveling salesman) sold them (the still tribal sumarians) goods that were invented by Egyptians: makeup, Jewry, clothing and introduced them to the idea of an economy, this is the sin that the sumarians later wrote about where a snake dressed man made them sinner's that needed to cover themselves and filled them with jellousy, because it turned the paradise of sumeria, into a warzone of vanity and greed.

OR maybe that last part happened, sans the astroid, and then you have an extremely pragmatic, realistic, historical event, that would make the writings of genisis actually make sense in context of mortal life on earth.

This is the sin that was introduced when adam and eve bit into the apple https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exh...t/egcl06e.html

I believe that story of adam and eve is a embellishment that was told at campfires, of what actually happened, that the largest tribes leaders bought the apples and all the other stuff the salesman had to sell, then when he left they all started killing each other and blamed the salesman. It's the plot to gods must be crazy basically. Only instead of a coke bottle thrown from a airplane, a salesman came on a wagon and gave it to them.

my man jibartik bringing the historical materialism. epic Shit .

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/GzjYmpwbHEA?t=629

Dont use antivaxer logic.

Religion is history.

Its not fiction.

if you look at all the rules in the torah, they are more akin to keeping you culturally Jewish, than they are keeping you free from any kind of sin.

The first 5 commandments are a moral contract to god, the second 5 are literally how to run an economy. It's a constitution. A bill of rights. I mean he brought it down from the mountain, after he was sick of watching his people dance and screw on stage while drinking cows blood lol his "people" needed a goverment, and in the wildlands in a kingdom with no army, 10,000 years ago, the way to do that is with religion.

for those that hate religion, ask yourself, what is it you hate? I bet the answer is something like: It's not complete information or outright lies, it forces people to do horrible things, and is ignorant of science and the truth.

That's just goverment lol

If you hate religion, you dont hate religion, you hate MAN... you're just using religion as a scapegoat.

Religion is nationalism, without a nation.

It's just politics and culture.

But it is not fiction any more than democrat and republican is.

They all shoot bolts of death from the clouds at the innocent.

Technically, it's not really about keeping one "Culturally Jewish" because first you have to define "Jewishness" which isn't a monolith.

No one is going to argue that Essenes weren't "Jews" because all of the documentation outlining the cultural identity of the Essenes defines them as "Jewish", yet, the ideological disposition of the Essenes, is inherently different than that of the Pharisees (Levitical Priests), which, again, was entirely different than the ideological disposition of the Saducees (the agnostic branch of their Judicial system, which didn't believe in the metaphysical at all).

So, one cannot simply say "Jewishness" is a monolithic cultural construct, as what defines "Jewishness" to the outside observer varies based on which subdivision one looks at.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think this is an easy to follow, and not a what if?:

Electricity---------\|/-----------Resonant Frequency
------------------Energy----------------
Magnetism--------/|\-----------Thunder

It is easy to follow, because I've already laid out the precepts for following it.

Electricity and Magnetism are interrelated phenomenon; knowing that they are an inter-related phenomenon is HOW our modern electronics work. We, as a whole, know this truth, because we utilize it constantly, both physically (sound being physically converted into electromagnetic phenomenon within the mind, and electronically).

What is a radio wave? (a wave that oscillates between being an electrical wave, and a magentic wave)
and
that wave is capable of carrying "information" (energy) which is then translated on the receiving end into a resonant frequency, which is translated into SOUND, video, etc
Technically, it could even be split back into Electricity, which is what Tesla was working on.

are you going to argue that these 4 constructs of energy are not related? That would be a really really really ignorant position to take considering the practical applications all around you proving this truth.