Request for a different policy on (game-changing) specific item camps

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Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah and i wonder who will get in the most kills- oh yeah, the same power guilds who are camping them now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah man, you're right, wouldn't it be so much more fair if anyone could just walk up to a camp and get in, regardless of effort or dedication?

Hey, all these people gave up all these opportunities to do other shit because they felt this is more important, but it's only fair if I just nonchalantly trot up and get right in on the action!.

The bottom line is you can get in on all these camps if you actually have some dedication and try to get in on the shit. Just because you have some sense of entitlement where you think you should be able to walk up to any camp no matter what and start getting loot from it doesn't mean that's how shit should work, because it shouldn't. If you want something bad enough, dedicate your effort to getting it. Don't expect to just be able to get it at any random ass time you choose.

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Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't. But I bet you were one of those kids that inspired some kids to do that.

Of course you weren't.. You just morphed into the 'fun police' 20 years later. Right..

Grats on being the fat chick at the bar who's goal that night is not only to remind anyone within earshot of how bad a time your having, but to also ensure that no one else you came with goes home with anyone that night.

Try as we might, even our combined efforts isn't going to make your wildest dreams come true, so get ready for plan B.

Here's the shocker: most people arguing against your QQ don't have HS keys or NOSs or lockets or whatever, either. We just sucked it up and went ahead and got levels and loots elsewhere, like the sane 99% of the server.

Would i like those items? sure. but its not gonna make or break my gaming experience either way. You could have sit outside Frenzied in Guk for weeks back in classic and never gotten the camp, either. You could have lived in Dag's Cauldron and never even seen Bilge. And lets not even Start on AC or Hadden. It's not like camp-hogging is some wild new fad that just showed up with the launch of Kunark.

In a way i'm sad, because there's simply nothing we're going to be able to do for you in this thread to bring you happiness, outside of that fleeting moment of joy you embrace when your buddy Kika high-fives you. Best of luck to ya.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Random you say? More like NEVER
I can respect a race to a camp to be FIRST, but this doesn't entitled you to be THE ONLY, regardless of how much "effort" you think you put in into it.

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Originally Posted by Stumpes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is how old EQ was. Stop complaining because you want it to be like WoW where every person can have any item. Those items are rare for a reason, and seldom hit the open market.

How this conversation got this far before this point was made is simply astounding. I keep forgetting i'm probably not even talking to EQ players here.

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Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Random you say? More like NEVER
I can respect a race to a camp to be FIRST, but this doesn't entitled you to be THE ONLY, regardless of how much "effort" you think you put in into it.

It does. Otherwise this thread doesn't exist. You are now arguing against facts. congrats!

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This thread needs more analogies.

Maybe then everyone will be able to understand the other individuals point of view.

Surely that will work.

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Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Random you say? More like NEVER
I can respect a race to a camp to be FIRST, but this doesn't entitled you to be THE ONLY, regardless of how much "effort" you think you put in into it.

Except all the camps can and do change hands (to random people.)

What's going on here is you run up to a camp, see it's camped, then come back the next day and see it's still camped and assume the same people have been cmaping it nonstop. You act as if there's a concerted effort to stop you from getting loot. There isn't.

If YOU want loot then YOU can put in the time and dedication to get it. If you think you should be able to log in at 5pm on a Thursday and run straight to the CoS camp and start getting a chance at loot then you're a douchebag with a horrid sense of entitlement.

"hay guys, we've been here for 20 hours with no CoS or Idol, but Kika here just ran up and has been here for 5 minutes, the only fair thing to do is let him in the group and have a shot at loot!"

Give me a break. Get your sense of entitlement out of here.

[Kika Maslyaka]

I am not looking for entitlement - I am looking for fairness.

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Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not looking for entitlement - I am looking for fairness.

And the current system is plenty fair. People who get loot from camps do so because they are dedicated to their goal of doing so. You are not dedicated, so you have less chance of getting loot. YOU are stopping yourself from getting the camps, not other people.

You can sit at the camp and wait. You can log out there and play an alt and check back in occasionally. You can check the camp at offpeak hours constantly. You can always ask the people if they will accept help. You can join a guild or make friends and go hold down your own camp. You have TONS of options for getting the loot you want if you actually dedicate yourself to doing so.

If you want to just stroll in to any camp and start getting exp and loot just for showing up, well, this might not be the game for you. Unlike modern MMOs, you don't get what you want here just because you want it.

[Kika Maslyaka]

you missing a point that have already been made.
I don't mind sitting in line waiting for 1 hour, 2,3, 4 - if I would have any certainty that my turn will actually come.
Whats been argued here, is that the group currently holding the camp has no intention of passing it to the people on wait line - they keep bringing in more friends and family and guildies, to hold the camp 24/7 and NOT pass it on to anyone else outside their closed circle.

When fabled event went live in EQ - the line in Lower Guk for fabled FBSS was 47 people long, and 17 for fabled SSOY. I joined the waiting list, and patiently awaited my turn for SSOY for 4 hours, and finally get it.
I gave up on the #47 in line for FBSS and went to sleep.
But this was FAIR.
It wasn't that 1 guild has locked down the camp and and kept bringing in more of their own people with disregard to guys who were there before them