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Old 01-26-2019, 09:03 PM
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not nice to troll jimjam
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:00 PM
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By his own admittance, he logged off. He forfeited the camp.

It's pretty clear cut.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:19 PM
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Not really Bricke I had already covered how you can legitimately hold a camp by acquiring it through a hand over. I anticipated the gotcha and it fell flat. I strongly advice against attempting to FTE a storm feather that someone acquired through a list hand off.

Incidentally the other two ways to hold a camp are by cycling PHers or killing neighbouring mobs. If you kill a mob that someone has already engaged, and you don't 'hold the camp' through the above means then you are liable to be petitioned as a kill stealer.

Just hope you didn't annoy the guy you KSed too much so it doesn't come to that.

Exit: thanks for your thoughts and clarifications Loramin, it seems we both understand each other's positions now and have argued them to the extent possible. Hopefully we'll get guidance on the Hadden wait issue, hopefully it won't go the way of Brother Jentry!

It would be great if the list hand off 'rule' could be edited into the main body of the rules too!

As you say, respectful behaviour seems to go a long way.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:36 PM
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It would be great if the list hand off 'rule' could be edited into the main body of the rules too!
Here's my plan:

Step #0: Finish my other wiki projects (eg. the Buff Lines page)

Step #1: Go through all the many different rules pages that the staff has worked so hard on, and get them unified into a single rules page, without losing any rules in the process, which can replace all the others (ie. literally get us all on the same page).

Step #2: Go through all known camp rulings (ie. spend a lot of time searching posts from Llandris and others) and get them all down "on the same page" too.

Step #3: Once we can finally clearly see what we've got, then we can look at ways to improve it (and I think this would be an ideal time to loby the staff into codifying both hand-offs and a "first serve" rule)

Step #4: Profit!

But anyone else is welcome to skip to #3 and lobby the staff now; that's just my personal grand plan for trying to make the rules more friendly for everone.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:40 PM
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Even if you strategically snipped the camp rules quote you're still a server hero!!

I believe at one point swish compiled all rules posts. I believe the post got nuked, but it may be worth contacting him to see if he kept a plaintext version of his document.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:43 PM
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Everyone is guilty.

Burn the server down to ashes.

Criminalize the name "Brad".
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:08 PM
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So much drama and I bet all he dropped was a fishing pole.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:08 PM
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All of this goes to show why EQ needs an upgraded design in many areas. Spending 6 hours of your life (usually much more) sitting at a completely boring camp for an earring that's rarely even relevant on a PvE server. Not good. It also shows why PvP-style p99 is better than PvE. Much more interesting to be able to fight others within level range to claim a camp.

I generally don't believe in KSing as something that exists in the first place. Whichever group does the most damage to a target is who gets the kill. It's a form of competition I welcome, and in EQ it just becomes such a negative thing because of itemization, static content, and how much inherent downtime there can be. People actively trolling someone by following them around and killing everything they try to fight is an actual problem, and in that case my policy would be to have the GM's summon PvE mobs that attack the troll in question, or jail them perhaps. Maybe some kind of alignment system too.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:39 PM
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hello researchers from 2068 about to find first diagnosable cases of yet to be named mental illnesses
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Old 01-27-2019, 12:12 AM
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hello researchers from 2068 about to find first diagnosable cases of yet to be named mental illnesses
Those guys are having fun?!! Playing a VIDYA GAAAAME?!?!?
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