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[Krycek]

Women are "allowed" opportunities for management/leadership roles...are you kidding me? Maybe they just aren't the most qualified to have them? I know sexism/racism exists, it's just not as rampant as a lot of ppl make it out to be.

Maybe they should be fired from the job's that they aren't able to perform, how's that for equality? Men usually have higher unemployment rates than women. Maybe if they replaced the women who couldn't do their jobs with men it would be a lil more equal?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Krycek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Women are "allowed" opportunities for management/leadership roles...are you kidding me? Maybe they just aren't the most qualified to have them? I know sexism/racism exists, it's just not as rampant as a lot of ppl make it out to be.

Maybe they should be fired from the job's that they aren't able to perform, how's that for equality? Men usually have higher unemployment rates than women. Maybe if they replaced the women who couldn't do their jobs with men it would be a lil more equal?

I think a lot of times when we are not in someone's shoes it's easy to determine what doesn't happen to them as rampantly as others claim.

Your statement of "Maybe they (women) should be fired from the job's that they aren't able to perform" can easily be changed to (men) and the narrative equally fits because I know for a fact I have worked with many a lazy and unfit working MAN in every field of work I have been in.

I checked unemployment rates of men and women and what I found was this:


It is widely known that a gender gap exists in the workforce: men generally earn more than women, and men are more likely to be employed than women.

-Stanford, Institute for Economic Research



AND to provide a second source of information I found this:


Bureau of Labor Statistics

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea10.htm



You can look at for yourself on the stat sheet provided in my link above it clearly shows for ages of 20+ and older, both men and women are a dead even at 3.7% unemployment for 2016-2017 (up to November.)





This is why these kinds of discussions are difficult, because people sit on their laurels and either spout what their favorite "news" show tells them, or they pull anecdotal evidence out their asses to prove their narrative, neither of which are reliable sources of information.

If you can show me where it says men are "usually" unemployed more often than women I will concede but even if true the margin is so slight it's not worth mentioning, even looking at the Bureau of Labor Statistics website, you can see that different age groups of men and women can be slightly less or slightly more apt to being unemployed but there is no huge gap between them either way.

You made a very generalized statement to fit a narrative which is that women don't have it so bad in fact men usually have it worse and this is not true. You can't prove it by anecdotes or by any given statistics, none that I found anyway.

Fact of the matter is sexism does exist and it IS harder for women to rise up the ranks of leadership positions in most fields of work which happen to also pay the most amount of money which is why studies show the female gender DOES make less money than the male gender when you look at the big picture.

[Krycek]

First topic I clicked on by doing a quick google search.

http://globalpolicysolutions.org/res...SAAEgLCK_D_BwE

Like you said, you can pick and choose which information that fit's your narrative. I never said men shouldn't be fired for not being able to perform a job either, did I?

That's a big problem with these discussion's too, people jump to conclusions. I think the best person for the job should be hired and kept and anyone that can't after ample training and chances should be let go. It's as simple as that. Sex doesn't have anything to do with it.

But that's about as much as I wanna discuss this here. Thought I would throw in my life experiences in the work place is all. I know everyone's differ but this is mine. I'm all for equality but I just don't think these current day or third wave Feminist's or whatever they are really want equality.

[mickmoranis]

Lancelot your mellenial opinion on this subject is so wrong/bad/entitled, I might have to just quit these forums.

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[Jimjam]

The real reason why more women don’t rise to the top of companies

The Economist sure are publishing a lot on this area at the moment!

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real reason why more women don’t rise to the top of companies

The Economist sure are publishing a lot on this area at the moment!

That's a pretty good point about kids in that article.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a pretty good point about kids in that article.

Well, feminists have specifically argued for paid leave for childcare. I don't know if they have pushed for father only-paid leave yet...but that has proven to be extremely effective. See, women absorb a disproportionate amount of the cost of child-rearing on a macro scale. Father-only paid leave is a way to help balance that.

We could also consider a women head of household tax break.

But I assume the right has some bullshit pro-business shitkicker argument against this.

Edit: One member of a gay family has to identify as the father for tax purposes. At least that's how they do it in Sweden. The other partner gets the mother benefit package.