RELEASE LUCLIN ON RED

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

classic saw the quickest drop off of any content. within a month the majority of the pop was gone. this is because classic can be beaten in 3 weeks.

Classic saw the quickest drop because that's how every server for every game ever works. People try it because it's new, then they leave. And, in case you forgot, those were the days when people could loot gear off of each other, a rule which doesn't mesh well with a game built around progression.

[Slathar]

for the sake of my well being please do not introduce AAs on this server

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic saw the quickest drop because that's how every server for every game ever works. People try it because it's new, then they leave. And, in case you forgot, those were the days when people could loot gear off of each other, a rule which doesn't mesh well with a game built around progression.

It was in fact alot of fun, months, years of fun, to play elf counterstrike with item loot on Rallos

Too bad the devs didnt see it this way. That, coupled with item loot would have insured a server with a much better longevity. Instead we watched helplessly as everything we told the devs would happen happened.

No economy, unlootable hard twinks, the same hundred toxic trolls to play with once everyone else left the boat, yeah.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was in fact alot of fun, months, years of fun, to play elf counterstrike with item loot on Rallos

Too bad the devs didnt see it this way. That, coupled with item loot would have insured a server with a much better longevity. Instead we watched helplessly as everything we told the devs would happen happened.

No economy, unlootable hard twinks, the same hundred toxic trolls to play with once everyone else left the boat, yeah.

To be fair, item loot would strongly discourage the current metagame. Occasionally, one of the hardcore Raiders would just lose all of his gear. It's not my favorite solution, but it would be a solution.

That said, everyone would just play wizards, which is basically what happened then.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair, item loot would strongly discourage the current metagame. Occasionally, one of the hardcore Raiders would just lose all of his gear. It's not my favorite solution, but it would be a solution.

That said, everyone would just play wizards, which is basically what happened then.

Patching sets of no drop to lessen the harshness of loot pvp (especially for melees) was mentioned a bunch of times to devs.

Youd only wear your best shit if you were roaming around with a big roaster from your guild, etc... like in eve online.

The technicalities would have had to be defined, but i never read anyone giving me a reason why this would not have worked.

To be clear, i wasnt expecting the devs to change red to item loot in the middle of its existence. Thats a decision that had to be made before it went live, though i proposed a voluntary item loot system a couple of times that no one seemed to think was worth pursuing. What really depopulated the server is devs holding on to the bitter end that "lol, this isnt Call of duty" to fix the xp death problem, when pop finally hit single digit numbers. Eveything we had on top of that later was bittersweet as the server is only viable if enough people are playing, especially so when community is toxic heavy. I disregard completely opinions like that of Sirken's, who blame this (the grief) on the people playing, staff were explained in and out what Holo and Nihilum were doing and chose to ignore it.

[Kuna]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

classic saw the quickest drop off of any content. within a month the majority of the pop was gone. this is because classic can be beaten in 3 weeks.

classic population was over 600 for the first month.. was great till the Rogean said ,, there will never be Yellow text or xp bonus...

pop went down to less than 100....

rogean finally adds YT and xp bonus.. server pop back at 200ish...

its tobad he just didnt listen to the community in the first place and the server would still have 500+

[heartbrand]

I know for myself and many in Empire, we have 0 interest in a classic only server and wouldn't play.

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know for myself and many in Empire, we have 0 interest in a classic only server and wouldn't play.

Then quit .no1 gives a fuck

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then quit .no1 gives a fuck

Seriously. It's called Project 1999 for a reason. The condition of the server now should be proof enough that non-classic bullshit just doesn't work here. Nobody cares what people like Heartbrand, who just want more free pixels and uncontested raid targets, want from the server.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously. It's called Project 1999 for a reason. The condition of the server now should be proof enough that non-classic bullshit just doesn't work here. Nobody cares what people like Heartbrand, who just want more free pixels and uncontested raid targets, want from the server.

krazyGlue and easy_lee, two guys who probably did nothing to benefit the health of the server now calling for a wipe/reroll over releasing the next classic 2001 Velious-era expansion pack.

One is a luddite degenerate griefer. The jury is still out on this easy_lee fella.