Forsaken

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to infer from your non-answer answer that your answer is zero.

I can't lie man, I have no idea. The most I've done in the past couple of weeks is check the forums from my phone most of the time. Having some irl things almost on the daily that I have to take care of before I will have a chance to spend time playing as much as I want.

But what I do know is that you are defending two powerhouse guilds who refuses to go to Class C, and you are complaining about a powerhouse guild who just entered Class R.

You also quoted someone else and labelled the quote as HYPOCRISY in your signature...

I can't find a better candidate for hypocrisy, at the moment, other than yourself, sir.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But what I do know is that you are defending two powerhouse guilds who refuses to go to Class C, and you are complaining about a powerhouse guild who just entered Class R.

What do you mean "refuses to go to class C" ? One simply does not compel a guild to change to class C. You do realize that class C is designated for no life neck-beards with shit-stained socks, right? Not everybody wishes to play that way.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean "refuses to go to class C" ? One simply does not compel a guild to change to class C. You do realize that class C is designated for no life neck-beards with shit-stained socks, right? Not everybody wishes to play that way.

I think your idea of Class C is a bit obtuse compared to what it actually is. It takes actual ability and playtime to get the mobs you want in Class C. It does involve an amount of neckbearding, but you already do the amount necessary while you are inside Class R, so why you bitchin'?

Instead, you refuse to step up to the plate, and you sit there taking away from the smaller guilds pretending your some awesome entity, when in actuality, you are just being a prick.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think your idea of Class C is a bit obtuse compared to what it actually is. It takes actual ability and playtime to get the mobs you want in Class C. It does involve an amount of neckbearding, but you already do the amount necessary while you are inside Class R, so why you bitchin'?

Instead, you refuse to step up to the plate, and you sit there taking away from the smaller guilds pretending your some awesome entity, when in actuality, you are just being a prick.

There you go telling people how they should play again. I guess that's the biggest difference between class C and class R. C players try to dictate to others what's theirs and how they should play. R players just play.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think your idea of Class C is a bit obtuse compared to what it actually is. It takes actual ability and playtime to get the mobs you want in Class C. It does involve an amount of neckbearding, but you already do the amount necessary while you are inside Class R, so why you bitchin'?

Instead, you refuse to step up to the plate, and you sit there taking away from the smaller guilds pretending your some awesome entity, when in actuality, you are just being a prick.

Class R guilds go for maybe 2-3 targets per week.

Class C guilds go for VP (6 targets), plus another 6-8 targets depending on where the class system stands.

The amount of poopsocking is in no way similar. On top of this, windows are now Monday night - Tuesday afternoon. Which precludes most of your typical employed US Time zone players from partaking in raids (which is a large chunk of the server).

If however, Variance were reduced from 16 hours down to a more classic 0-60minutes. More guilds would be able to compete in Class C because the poopsocking requirement is lessened. If such a change happened I'm almost positive one or two guilds would jump from Class R to C.

But Sirken has repeatedly said he won't approve a change like that because he hates poopsocking. Yet Forsaken+Rampage had 25-30 each at the very start of VS's window with 16 hours left to go. I don't really get the hate on poopsocking from his end -- It is dumb, without a doubt. But guaranteeing players partake in this dumb activity a maximum of 1 hour would be a vast improvement over the unfortunate trackers who sit at a spawn point for 15.5 hours without seeing the mob spawn.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean "refuses to go to class C" ? One simply does not compel a guild to change to class C. You do realize that class C is designated for no life neck-beards with shit-stained socks, right? Not everybody wishes to play that way.

Socking with 20-25 people when a mob is in a window... in Class R....

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't think taken went for maestro, it was just us <anonymous> and Forsaken there. We almost got it to, was a fun race.

R is indeed super crowded. not a lot of space for new guilds trying to make some space for themselves. I dont understand personally why the big guilds don't goto class C. Lawyerquest is bullshit but whatever, get the FTE, get er done. Dont really get why Forsaken is in R competing for mobs against us learning guilds, but rules are rules and hopefully everyone can get along and not try to simply take all the cake for themselves (wishful thinking).

Literally this has been preached since the rotation abruptly ended, and Taken BDA decided to take all the R loot themselves.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're honestly really only going to affect guilds not named BDA or Taken in class R. If your guild name is on the following list, please be prepared to get even less loot than before:

Anonymous
Azure Guard
Divinity
Europa
Indignation
Moonlight Crusaders
Omni
The A-Team

A-Team, Moonlight Crusaders are dead guilds. Divinity was PRO scumbag maneuver for dismantlement of the rotation. I Have significant doubts if the other guilds will notice much, as BDA/Taken were taking 2/3 of all mobs already. This is only really putting pressure on those guilds.

Originally Posted by neeferio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doubt anyone in BDA cares. Mostly we are laughing that Forsaken can't handle the heat in class C. Giving all the VP loot to Rampage.

Enjoy your 1 class R mob a month.

Cheers

This is the quote everyone should remember from this thread, how hopelessly disillusioned BDA is. BDA is the one that started to shit this thread up with forsaken being in R, has many VP keys but won't compete there, and honestly believes that forsaken will only get 1 mob a month when they have already gotten 3 this week.


My own selfish reasons I'd like forsaken back in R, but on the other hand I'd like them to bitch slap around bda/taken till veillious.

[Prismaticshop]

Lol this thread is GOLD !

Quite amazing stuff in here.

only person that is sane is Gadfly.

The rest are beyond point of return, lost in the abyss of nerd pride.

RIP in peace bros

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RIP in peace bros

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol this thread is GOLD !

Quite amazing stuff in here.

only person that is sane is Gadfly.

The rest are beyond point of return, lost in the abyss of nerd pride.

RIP in peace bros

RIP in peace. Visceral?