attention RL info posting nerds

[Kekephee]

willing to level a character to 60 and infiltrate any guild on the server to find RMT for the GMs in exchange for an oogly stick

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA is number one RMTing guild - I think they are just worried that Tiggles will infiltrate them and they'll get busted.

/tinfoil on

I just assume we've already been infiltrated... for all I know, Anthrax = Tiggles.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you really feel this is the case, then gtfo. Don't spread your negativity here, just leave.

Everyone knows this server has had a few rocky times in the past, but despite what a handful of hardcore conspiracy theorists think, nobody gets special favortism on this server with the current staff. It's funny because when we let other guilds get off easy on something no one ever hears about it because no one cares. But when TMO gets any hint of leniency the server explodes.

I suppose it comes with the position, but we work our asses off to keep the server running smoothly and fairly. The raid scene is maybe 10% of the CSR work we do here as a staff. And now that we're trying our hardest to take a completely 'hands off' approach and allow players to set sanctions that we will enforce, it's extremely difficult to say that we're biased towards anyone.

Lastly, Tiggles has always been a troll. Ain't nobody giving Tiggles any special treatment nowadays - if you really think he can just waltz up and get an account unbanned for someone, you're incredibly disillusioned.

So your response to criticism regarding rampant, essentially unchecked RMT on the server isn't to acknowledge the issue and have of discussion about it but instead to attack those advocating for changes to the system and tell them to either get used to it or "GTFO".

It makes your mock outrage over allegations of favoritism even more amusing when your own stance effectively supports the current status quo.

Make no mistake, the staffs efforts to combat RMT are appreciated (those that stick atleast) but they end up seeming disengenuous when they have exact ZERO EFFECT on RMT operations.

And of course Tiggles is a troll, but when the sheer mass of allegations, rumors and innuendo point in the exact same direction you'd have to be "incredibly disillusioned" not to see kernels of truth there.

[Glenzig]

How exactly would you go about shutting down the RMT operations? I would love to hear a solid plan for this. If it would actually work, that would be even better.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How exactly would you go about shutting down the RMT operations? I would love to hear a solid plan for this. If it would actually work, that would be even better.

I have no clue what tool the GMs have available to them however we could start with banning the account AND the player.

Also, the fact that it was one or two people over many accounts, most of those not their own shouldn't factor in at all.

Knowing breaking the rules by sharing account info shouldn't protect you from the actions of others.

Ban em all.

Ironically, the mass exodus of so many ancient accounts might be the best thing for the server as its been stagnant as fuck for ages now.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How exactly would you go about shutting down the RMT operations? I would love to hear a solid plan for this. If it would actually work, that would be even better.

BDA accounts for the majority of RMT purchases, I would ban BDA.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your response to criticism regarding rampant, essentially unchecked RMT on the server isn't to acknowledge the issue and have of discussion about it but instead to attack those advocating for changes to the system and tell them to either get used to it or "GTFO".

It makes your mock outrage over allegations of favoritism even more amusing when your own stance effectively supports the current status quo.

Make no mistake, the staffs efforts to combat RMT are appreciated (those that stick atleast) but they end up seeming disengenuous when they have exact ZERO EFFECT on RMT operations.

And of course Tiggles is a troll, but when the sheer mass of allegations, rumors and innuendo point in the exact same direction you'd have to be "incredibly disillusioned" not to see kernels of truth there.

Excuse me sir, but I do believe I personally investigated, researched, compiled, and banned over 400 accounts for RMT back in March. This count did NOT include account of platinum sellers, only buyers, but I assure you that number was also in the hundreds. RMT bans continue to happen on a weekly basis, you just don't hear about them.

And zero effect? I do believe we hit several sellers hard enough that they are just scraping by. There is no way to completely eliminate RMT, but we can work to curb it. So yes, when I put in dozens of hours into tracking and compiling RMT bans, I'm going to take offense when you try and call us corrupt or insinuate that we don't care, because you clearly don't know anything and just like to tinfoil hat because it's the cool thing to do.

As far as Tiggles goes, you let me know when he gets that character unbanned, k? As you stated yourself, you aren't even working off of facts - you're going off second-hand information and allegations. Again, the server has had a few rough patches with former staff members - but I'd challenge anyone to find real evidence of something like this happening with any current staff members. So yes, if this is the way you feel, I'd say gtfo - I don't know why you'd want to play on a server you view as "corrupt" ran by a staff that you think show favortism.

[hatelore]

Disband tmo, and then inact a rule that no one can mouth the word tmo while in game, ever. And I bet all rmt would halt!


Ban/tmo 2014

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disband tmo, and then inact a rule that no one can mouth the word tmo while in game, ever. And I bet all rmt would halt!


Ban/tmo 2014

If you press the keys T,M or O while playing on the server it deletes your account.

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your response to criticism regarding rampant, essentially unchecked RMT on the server isn't to acknowledge the issue and have of discussion about it but instead to attack those advocating for changes to the system and tell them to either get used to it or "GTFO".

It makes your mock outrage over allegations of favoritism even more amusing when your own stance effectively supports the current status quo.

Make no mistake, the staffs efforts to combat RMT are appreciated (those that stick atleast) but they end up seeming disengenuous when they have exact ZERO EFFECT on RMT operations.

And of course Tiggles is a troll, but when the sheer mass of allegations, rumors and innuendo point in the exact same direction you'd have to be "incredibly disillusioned" not to see kernels of truth there.

Everyone knows that RMT happens on this server - it happens on the majority of MMO servers. It takes time to attain pixels, time is money, and some people want to take the short route and skip the time investment required to obtain their pixels. Other people want to sell their time. There is next to nothing that can prevent these market forces from occurring.

When the staff learns of RMT operations, they shut them down. When they get new tools to detect RMT operations, they shut them down. It is an individual risk that some have decided to take - if/when they are discovered, they are banned and their time and/or money is wasted.

Remember, this staff works for free to make this the best server possible. Are they going to catch everyone? Probably not. Have they proven that they will ban people involved in RMT/duping/MQ2/etc. if caught? They definitely have.

You can either play on the FREE server that the FREE staff strives to make better, or not. The choice is yours alone. If you think that you have the experience or expertise to root out the cheaters, then you can apply to be a guide. If you think the server is so corrupt that it is beyond repair, then you should probably quit and go to a server that better suits your requirements.