Lock Server Until an Agreement is Met

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what, I believe you. Then why the hell are you guys whining so much. Put a little effort into the game and knock TMO and us out of the top spot. OH WAIT... You guys might have to put effort into the game. Reducing our ability to hit targets to only 14 days a month so you can clean up uncontested with your mass of underachieving players is a pretty weak offer if you ask me.

sounds like you havnt even read the counter-proposal that was put on the table by the other guilds....

they were not asking for 14 days of uncontested spawns wtf you still get plenty of targets the first half of the month......yes you dont get 100% of the mobs for half of the month....

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a few guild's view as their own superior efforts in the raid scene, or their actual sheer numbers does not put them in some sort of higher standing than everyone else

No one trait is dispositive of the issue. However, these factors certainly bear consideration.

Originally Posted by Catherin

Not agreeing with your terms doesn't mean anyone is dictating anything. It just means they found your terms unacceptable. Dictators also do not make concessions or attempt to compromise. There were concessions in that vent convo and attempts to compromise. More than I feel should be necessary. So drop the dictation tact.

What is frustrating about this situation is that while not every group has the same potential stake in the raid scene every group has been granted sufficient power to eliminate everyone's stake. I certainly agree that a solution is reachable, and I've said as much. However, the zone of agreement appears to be narrowing, and it appears increasingly less like negotiation and more like a hardline. To me at least; I hope I am wrong.

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im more than willing to be raid suspended for a week, or a month, or longer, if that's what its going to take for a proper agreement for everyone. This doesn't hurt me. This doesn't hurt the smaller guilds.

We're playing Chicken with 9 other cars and one of the drivers just ripped off their steering wheel.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troubled Posted

You know what, I believe you. Then why the hell are you guys whining so much. Put a little effort into the game and knock TMO and us out of the top spot. OH WAIT... You guys might have to put effort into the game. Reducing our ability to hit targets to only 14 days a month so you can clean up uncontested with your mass of underachieving players is a pretty weak offer if you ask me.

You guys need to wake up and look what you are asking. What we are offering is more than acceptable. We have been blamed for server discontent, Obamacare and everything else. The simple solution is to take the offer or it seems we will all suffer the consequences, not just the CAT A guilds.

Morphius
60 Neckbeard of Forceful Entry and insufferable twat

Hit enter early.

I still think 10 day / 20 day hands off primary vs secondary targets seems completely reasonable for guilds not willing/wanting to race/compete with experienced raiders. They still get they chance in the 20 days if they want to track mobs just like BDA and Taken had been doing on the targets they desired.

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Must be the 3rd or 4th time my statement has been quoted, and then warped to your own meaning. My, it has gotten you guys pretty upset, hasn't it?

TL DR is a solution for *everyone*

not just you

not just me

This could mean a rotation, or anything else that the MAJORITY agrees upon.

I must now amend this to the 4th or 5th time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're playing Chicken with 9 other cars and one of the drivers just ripped off their steering wheel.

On a lighter note. I loved this analogy even if I question the accuracy of it. the visualization made me giggle IRL.

Should I assume I am the one who ripped off the steering wheel? That IS like me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rogean]

Just addressing the title of this thread:

Why would I lock the server because the raid guilds can't come to an agreement? You guys are forgetting you are a minority. The server does NOT revolve around the raid guilds and who gets dragon pixels. The majority of this server enjoys the normal content and I wouldn't allow the raid scene to ruin the server for everyone else.

Stupid suggestion is stupid.

We may, however, just stop spawning raid mobs until an agreement is met. Or just say that they can't be engaged.

[Yinikren]

We've been basically raid suspended for the past 2 1/2 years - a few more months while you guys come to a decision doesn't affect the majority of the server.

Most of the server doesn't have steering wheels on their cars atm.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We may, however, just stop spawning raid mobs until an agreement is met. Or just say that they can't be engaged.

Sirken beat me: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=133098

Sorry, my Forumquesting was slacking.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken beat me: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=133098

Sorry, my Forumquesting was slacking.

Rogean is clearly a casual. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rogean]

It was discussed on Sirken's stream the other day where there have been times I try to keep up with a thread or two, and then 3 hours later I realize to myself "I've sat here for 3 hours forumquesting and I've accomplished nothing." Would rather be working on stuff :P