Lol, this isn't going to change anything.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He means rotation or first in force I assume.


Which negate the need.

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ill say that fte culture has been toxic. Sniping is a dick maneuver and has gone on too long

Someone gets it.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone gets it.

You also see my (theoretical) proposal that would use tools we have programmed in a positive way. Dont think nilby would love to code shit that falls by the wayside.

[Lammy]

FTE sniping wouldn't be an issue if raid forces waited to engage strategically rather than just flailing themselves at targets hoping to beat a readied raid force. My stance has always been this through the recent shit shows.... If you feel TMO enagages early and grabs FTE, let them wipe so you can do a clean engage. Who are you to judge if TMO was ready to engage or not? You don't know what our strategy is in vent. But whether they wipe or not will give you a definitive answer.

/Loraen liberal hate on

[Nirgon]

Thanks for not answering my question personally.

First in force = poop sock rules for everything is actually the worst possible rule. Who had 20 people sitting there for 3 days straight? That's a good idea to you!?

You don't get it if you think that is good.

You also didn't answer my question. You waited for someone else to answer it in a way you liked, then quoted it.

Unfortunately and as suspected, another clueless bandwagoneer and probably the worst of them. Things will never get better with people like you arguing against Alarti and company.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for not answering my question personally.

First in force = poop sock rules for everything is actually the worst possible rule. Who had 20 people sitting there for 3 days straight? That's a good idea to you!?

You don't get it if you think that is good.

You also didn't answer my question. You waited for someone else to answer it in a way you liked, then quoted it.

Unfortunately and as suspected, another clueless bandwagoneer and probably the worst of them. Things will never get better with people like you arguing against Alarti and company.

He doesn't argue with me, he argues at me. I have him ignored. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/Loraen liberal hate on

At least Alarti argues the actual substance of things sometimes.

Maybe a second time will sledgehammer this idea through your skull: your guild is only in the position it is in owing to huge variance, and this is not classic. TR, TMO, FE/IB, and in the future any guilds willing to invest the time tracking are the ones receiving vastly more raid mobs than they would in a truly classic world. ergo, you are the ones receiving the handouts. It's exactly like the Great Depression when Roosevelt hired people to dig ditches and other people to fill them in: Rogean created a huge amount of unnecessary work and then rewarded the people that toed his line.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least Alarti argues the actual substance of things sometimes.

Maybe a second time will sledgehammer this idea through your skull: your guild is only in the position it is in owing to huge variance, and this is not classic. TR, TMO, FE/IB, and in the future any guilds willing to invest the time tracking are the ones receiving vastly more raid mobs than they would in a truly classic world. ergo, you are the ones receiving the handouts. It's exactly like the Great Depression when Roosevelt hired people to dig ditches and other people to fill them in: Rogean created a huge amount of unnecessary work and then rewarded the people that toed his line.

Ehhh this isnt correct. While I agree we structured our guild around variance.... if no variance ever existed it is impossible to predict how the raid scene would have turned out.
Without variance we would have structures ourselves differently, as would competition and new problems would exist. So basically you should put that sledge down and start fine-tuning your thoughts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ehhh this isnt correct. While I agree we structured our guild around variance.... if no variance ever existed it is impossible to predict how the raid scene would have turned out.
Without variance we would have structures ourselves differently, as would competition and new problems would exist. So basically you should put that sledge down and start fine-tuning your thoughts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti, do you believe in global warming?

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for not answering my question personally.

First in force = poop sock rules for everything is actually the worst possible rule. Who had 20 people sitting there for 3 days straight? That's a good idea to you!?

You don't get it if you think that is good.

You also didn't answer my question. You waited for someone else to answer it in a way you liked, then quoted it.

Unfortunately and as suspected, another clueless bandwagoneer and probably the worst of them. Things will never get better with people like you arguing against Alarti and company.

Shit was classic. I'm at work. it's not worth typing up an essay from my phone. You don't like it? Deal with it.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It takes two.
The problem is belief. Belief can become self-assuring touchstones. When people drift to far from what they "know" to be true they must violent reject new information as impossible. I don't really think people in TMO believe that FE/IB are actually the scum of the universe or that everyone there cheats/rmt's. I'm sure we might have a couple who invest entirely too much into Reynold's stock but for the vast majority we understand that RMT/cheating will happen anywhere.

I can't say whether the same can be said about other guilds' leaders and their beliefs.

Not pointing fingers, but everyone who reads RnF objectively(all 3 of you) look in your guild chat... everytime TMO is mentioned is cheating/rmting/hacking/douchebag the first thing mentioned? If so I'd say you have the problem... not us. RnF is RnF what goes on here is just bullshit for kicks and giggles and a fair amount of boredom.

TMO guild chat is not rife with bitching about FE/IB/BDA/Whoever. TMO isn't protesting other guilds cheatin/training etc by not rezzing/buffing/porting you. If this is your guild's or your personal opinion, you might need to examine what YOU can do to help.

Hate is a choice.

Good post Alarti. I mean, fuck you, die! this is rnf~!