Dear Atheist,

[r00t]

[QUOTE=kylok;1201439]And the age of the universe is calculated fairly easily with the speed of light and basic trigonometry./QUOTE]

Lol I'd love to see this genius burger equation

AGE = COSINE TIMES C SQUARED

[Lune]

IF the big bang happened than how come we didnt here it?

science channel 0
God 1

[kylok]

=D because at that moment there was no medium for the sound to travel through. There also wasn't likely sound if the forces were unified.

[Ahldagor]

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[kylok]

It's not quite that simple, but it's based on a parsec - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec
which is an easy calculation to make.

Also, this - "Measurements of the cosmic background radiation give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang, and measurements of the expansion rate of the universe can be used to calculate its approximate age by extrapolating backwards in time."
Since the universe expands at a more or less constant rate the age of the universe is not too hard to extrapolate.

[r00t]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not quite that simple, but it's based on a parsec - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec
which is an easy calculation to make.

Also, this - "Measurements of the cosmic background radiation give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang, and measurements of the expansion rate of the universe can be used to calculate its approximate age by extrapolating backwards in time."
Since the universe expands at a more or less constant rate the age of the universe is not too hard to extrapolate.

LOLOL If scientists can tell that the universe is expanding then whats on the outside of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ahldagor]

the age of the universe is dependent upon light that we've detected with our own instruments. it's an arbitrary human thing. besides time is subjective.

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the age of the universe is dependent upon light that we've detected with our own instruments. it's an arbitrary human thing. besides time is subjective.

Well.. yes and no. Since light travels at a constant speed we can say that the universe is at least so old if not older. The passage of time is relative, not subjective as it is a dimension of space-time. The measurement of time, much like the measurement of distance is indeed arbitrary but still based on the empirical. A fun fact to ponder is that from the perspective of a photon travel is instantaneous. Relativity is fun =D.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well.. yes and no. Since light travels at a constant speed we can say that the universe is at least so old if not older. The passage of time is relative, not subjective as it is a dimension of space-time. The measurement of time, much like the measurement of distance is indeed arbitrary but still based on the empirical. A fun fact to ponder is that from the perspective of a photon travel is instantaneous. Relativity is fun =D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_perception

don't hang yourself with time. it didn't exist until a pattern recognition was named and sustained by humans long before we were even eggs in our mother's bellies.

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_perception

don't hang yourself with time. it didn't exist until a pattern recognition was named and sustained by humans long before we were even eggs in our mother's bellies.

We're talking about two different things

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_measurement