Discussion on R99 vs VZTZ **POSTPONED**

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Elderans hobby is killing dragons, we get it so he sides against change since he has a 1 guild blue server.

Low lvl/mid level community, team community, opposition, rivalry, economy, alts, casuals all of these factors don't contribute to Elderan's perception of a good server. He just wants to be in the top guild and get all the pixels, which he has - Nihilum isn't that exclusive either bro, some of your stuff sounds high horseish, and you don't impress me.

I have listed MANY realistic suggestions which would actually work within the context of this server.

I honestly don't care about loot. One thing I learned 14 years ago is that loot comes and goes but people are much more important.

[heals4reals]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope I want 1k people on this server every night. That would be great, but I still want to kill all of the raid mobs.

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly don't care about loot. One thing I learned 14 years ago is that loot comes and goes but people are much more important.

[Elderan]

Nope I want 1k people on this server every night. That would be great, but I still want to kill all of the raid mobs.

Killing raid mobs is part of winning to me...

[Bantam 1]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p sure the reason why red99 is dead isn't because people don't like pvp

it's because within a week everyone realized how awful the server was set up

but you weren't around then eldermoran so i'm not going to think for a second that you have any sort of valid opinion on the matter

Given how the red folks act on the forums - it also has to do with your community. There's a level of "well you don't like the red server because you're a ******" which actually makes people happy red is such a fail currently (you're basically 99% blue with an xp bonus and 1% lopsided pvp)

Personally I'd like there to be a working pvp server with a healthy population, but I think regardless of the specific rule set you're going to have a ghost town of a server due to your own community.

[Alecta]

Static = Mindgames, right?

[Rokannis]

Originally Posted by Alecta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Static = Mindgames, right?

yep

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Alecta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Static = Mindgames, right?

oh shit Alecta from UM damnnn

[Stasis01]

Sry had to get one last post in before GF attacks me, 4 nights in a row 7-7 fuck.

[heals4reals]

Forum attitude is a biproduct of in game frustration

[runlvlzero]

Would laugh if an honest to god anti pk guild showed up. Nihilum likes to think they are. But they are blueb guild. They don't give a fuck all about pvp or noobs. They only antipk when raid boss is involved.

THIS is the problem with the server there is not enough players to make a guild that is both Nihilum (for the fag pixel lusters) and antipk (for the people who want to pvpvsPKs) and give noobs a reason to care about the box.

Not to mention the toxic element that comes over from blue and pisses off everyone that tries to help them, then they join Nihilum and forget about any help the ever recieved from PK's or others on the box who randomly FFA it up. (Yes I am/was once guilty of that behavior)

Short story: I gave like 400plat + help to this barbarian whow anted to start a barbarian only guild. Where is this guy now? What happend to this grand idea. Where are the barbarians? Its an impossible idea. But would be great. I hope the guy is still playing and their dreams not 100% crushed. But every time anyone gives a shit about the box it vaporizes into thin air...