Players will always compete for raid mobs; the point of contention is the rules

[Spitty]

Some would say it's a righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.

Not to derail the topic, but I was more commenting on how quickly the web population engages with the "you mad" when a disagreement is reached.

[Splorf22]

Nietche I already explained why your baseball analogy was terrible but obviously you didn't get it.

1. Practice is not NECESSARY to play sports. It is NECESSARY to track to raid on P1999.

2. Practicing sports is basically fun. Tracking is basically fucking stupid.

3. Tracking is the result of a stupid (and non-classic) rule change. I then gave an example of rule changes in basketball to make the game more fun.

Saying 'Tracking and its associated waste of time is valid on P1999 because pro sports require practice time' is like saying 'mice and whales both weigh the same because both are mammals'. In other words its fucking stupid.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Practice is not NECESSARY to play sports.

Wat?

To play professional sports, if players don't practice, they don't play. Are you and Vianna from the same dodo bird planet?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Splorf22

1. Practice is not NECESSARY to play sports.

Originally Posted by Nietche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wat?

To play professional sports, if players don't practice, they don't play. Are you and Vianna from the same dodo bird planet?

For the like the one hundredth time in this thread, you are twisting the words coming out of my mouth. It's just mind boggling to see you misquote me again and again and then call me a liar and a dodo when you have mental capacity of a cabbage. Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect I'm sure you think I'm just trolling you, but step back from forumquest for a second and consider the fact that everyone else in this thread has been disagreeing with everything you've said, and ask yourself: are you the genius set upon by dunces, or are you the dunce?

I said sports, not professional sports. And I said that for a reason, because I don't think playing Everquest should require the same time commitment as professional sports . . . as I stated earlier in one of my posts. Not to mention that as I and others have pointed out practice and tracking are not even remotely similar. Also I have fun all the time when I don't win, as long as I and my team played reasonably well and got the endorphins flowing. Sometimes the other team is just better than you, and if you actually played sports in even a rec league you would know what this feels like.

Anyway, you win. I'm tired of trying to sledgehammer ideas into the iron ball you call a brain. Congratulations.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/...s/flame_62.php

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention that as I and others have pointed out practice and tracking are not even remotely similar.

Not similar? They are similar in the very point I pointed out numerous times now: in terms of preparation. To be successful at either baseball or Everquest, you must put in the time necessary to get there. In baseball, players watch film (which takes time away from actually playing). In Everquest, players track (which takes time away from actually playing).

Yes, I do think you're a dunce.

[Orruar]

When you're at the point of the debate where you are likening P99 to professional sports, you should probably just quit.

[Aaryonar]

Not really disagreeing with tracking in general whatsoever. I think you'd see a bit of it even with variance removed, I've certainly done my fair share, and it's absolutely the only way to stay competitive with predictable variance windows.

I don't agree with current variance, but that's another conversation altogether. I'm just not really sure why nietche is defending such a poor analogy, that's all.

[webrunner5]

Don't get me wrong. I know the raid scene here is a nightmare. And I can see why they do it. They have real lives and not the time to baby sit. But with the hands off attitude Nilbog, Rogean, Sirken has it is likely not to change until Velious comes out. And that will be a new pissing contest.

EQ has Always leaned toward the high end raiding guilds and you guys that have played for years know that. If you loose your Hardcore players your server goes to crap.

[radditsu]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L...%3DeGDBR2L5kzI

[timhutton]

In the last 5 pages of this thread, suspensions have been compared to jail terms and everquest has been compared to professional sports.

Ya'll are fucking nuts and passed help.