the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[robayon]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just an FYI, raising the minimum wage too much just leads to everything costing more.

Or do you not think the companies will pass that extra expense on to the consumers?

Universal healthcare in theory sounds great but if everyone isn't paying into the system (we have way too many able-bodied in this country that leech off the government) and they don't reimburse the practicioners enough it will lead to disaster. A lot of practicioners already don't want to accept Medicare and Medicaid because they don't reimburse enough. Make either of them universal and guess what?

And AOC is a socialist moron.

This is all because capitalism itself is the problem, which is why you don't normally hear me harping on DSA talking points like universal healthcare and raising the minimum wage, but you do hear me harping on "destroy capitalism" because it's the root of the actual problem

The system we do use has too much momentum that it can't course correct, like reform, just let it crash and we build a new one

And AOC is a moron, she is trying to reform like your average Democratic Socialist would be. But that isn't what I was pointing out when I mentioned her

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is this one of the things where you're posting the opposite of what you think like you were doing a few weeks ago

The duality of man is a beautiful thing not something that should be hated and despised.

I wish literature was sacred still.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The duality of man is a beautiful thing not something that should be hated and despised.

I wish literature was sacred still.

I'm not despising the fact that people contain multitudes, I was just going to be surprised if starkind was literally endorsing fascism in any form

If I seriously believed anyone was a fascist here I would not converse with them

The Republican party may be a nascent fascist party, but the actual people who support the party will have varied positions, not all of them necessarily fascist

[Jibartik]

Im just saying not to forget that if someone is a republican they are not evil!

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...eb2x&context=3

I didnt make my bed and deserve it like you said I do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its possible to be a democrat, vote for trump, and still be everything democrats assuage they are.

[starkind]

I'm a Democrat still lol.

Probably won't bother changing it before the primary.

I hate my party.

I wish honest moral and kind was the metric we used to decide who lives and dies.

I'm under no delusion fascism will save us. I don't want a system that kills people even with good purpose. I want to rewrite the rules of nature. And I'm no G-d.

And I think the democratic part is stupidly evil.

I'm probably more of a moralistic libertarian. So I align a lot with the no step snek ppl. Ppl need to be free to run their communities and solve their problems without Nationalists and globalists and federalists bullying them. Even if that means a localized theocracy.

When you put the weight of big orgs and institutions behind bureaucracy and police and military. You end up with the monolithic results you see today. Through like the CIA, FBI, DEA, ATF, etc...DOE, HHS, FDA, USDA... the worthless SEC... IMF... fuck em bros. And Wallstreet.

[robayon]

Sure, I guess, you give a lot more importance to political parties than I would. I am sure there are pro-Trump democrats, why not, they're both pretty conservative parties after all

And I have also made my bed, and I sleep in it. All of this constant Marxist stuff, and anarchist stuff... once you learn it you can't unlearn it. You see this shit everywhere once you learn to see it. I was a happier person when I was a standard issue radlib. Ignorance can be bliss

So many of the ailments of American life click into place once you realize the scope of the ongoing class war, and then, blam, you're a psychotic alcoholic doomer who sees goddamn ghosts in every house and building

Once you look internationally, well, it gets trickier. Just see how my usage of the PKK flag as a goof because I read Bookchin gets Reiwa and Kaveh all bent out of shape

[Jibartik]

once you learn it you can't unlearn it

which I will never back an establishment candidate. Like one that has a lifetime, or history of working with either of these political parties.

You cant get any more anti establishment than trump in politics, you just cant.

They dont even let him use twitter for cryin out loud.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im just saying not to forget that if someone is a republican they are not evil!

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...eb2x&context=3

I didnt make my bed and deserve it like you said I do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its possible to be a democrat, vote for trump, and still be everything democrats assuage they are.

I agree. It's not hard to agree with this unless you sold your soul.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You cant get any more anti establishment than trump in politics, you just cant.

well

if the unabomber were to run for president...

or if we resurrected john brown and got him a battlemech...

we've looked the other way on more problematic folks! elliot abrams is still out there!

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well

if the unabomber were to run for president...

or if we resurrected john brown and got him a battlemech...

we've looked the other way on more problematic folks! elliot abrams is still out there!

see, you call him the Unabomber, but we had the most amount of peace with him, so it's just frustrating.

Its establishment messaging, just like evangelical people that would say clinton was a devil worshiper for playing the sax (they were right [that is sarcasm]) when painting your nails black was shunned by our evangelical establishment that ran the show.