Proposed Resist System Changes - Lucy

[CrystalBlue]

Everything you've said in this thread is hypothetical.

When you've actually logged in (in the last 6 months I mean) and become part of this community, plz post your findings/opinions.

[SamwiseBanned]

Nirgons entire arguement is based on theorycrafting and what he remembers to be classic and therefore "balanced"

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you say it never lands anyway. Kinda stuck now aren't ya?

who is this directed to? hard to follow ya man. one minute you are talking about quading raptors he next minute about velious loots. ADHD is strong with this one (not saying thats a bad thing).

[Nirgon]

Nice stretch trollborn, I expected you to say that. Unfortunately for you the classic item loot and resist systems weren't hypothetical or just thrown together and an afterthought.

Sam you say root never lands then you defend this change so strongly.

Guys, it isn't just me. Zyrino, Kringe, Destin and others are all classic players and agree with me. This isn't some system that I invented. It worked. If you think enchanters suck in pvp consider how useful melee haste buffs are or being able to fear pets? I'm done arguing with the two of you.

I'll log in for some classic EQ here when it is classic EQ here.

[SamwiseBanned]

Lolwut I said root doesn't land on people who actually weAr mr gear in pvp (tehruoh, wakawakA, ect). I never said it doesn't land but with my 72 mr I resist it more than half the time. Everyone is exaggerating it here not to mention the magic first cast theory based on 2 partials logs from destin. I'd be nice if this thread provided empirical data, SS, you know facts instead of tall tales discussing the balance issues instead of the "not classic" areguement

[Tycko]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This discussion from people who don't play here is lol. Yesterday we had some six v six PVP in seb. Was me, a wizard, sk, chanter, Mage, cleric vs cleric monk chanter wizard necro chanter. You would think from this discussion I was rooted the entire fight, mezzed and whirled. Except that didn't happen once. Btw the only people to survive? Monk and warrior. Intredasting

Since your trying to use this information to emphasize a point. I wanted to clarify a few things on this particular PVP engagement. The two survivors left in sebilis were a cleric and monk. The warrior survived by using a gate potion when he had frogs on him.

Not very "intredasting" if you ask me.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by BigSlip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So a sub 55 grp of red dawn zoned into seb. cleared to a group of 57+ nihi and killed you all/ kiched you out?

eehheeee

Was mass root involved?

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Tycko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since your trying to use this information to emphasize a point. I wanted to clarify a few things on this particular PVP engagement. The two survivors left in sebilis were a cleric and monk. The warrior survived by using a gate potion when he had frogs on him.

Not very "intredasting" if you ask me.

The cleric had to gate in the original encounter after being near death and came back @ the end when it was only me and you. Yes, I had PVE aggro so I had to leave @ that point of time. I'd also point out that our members were in their low 50's, the cleric had 20m and the enchanter, Arbie, was actually completely OOM, but yet Cocaine / Zozo / Action / mindsculptor or whoever, all were dirtnapped, fallen forced to flee. Anyway, the only point in even mentioning the encounter wasn't to get into a dick measuring contest, but to point out that with all of that CC that you guys had, I amazingly was not rooted or mezzed the entire fight.

[Yukahwa]

Originally Posted by BigSlip [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If resists were classic, ie immune to root at 50-60 mr, it would be kinda cool.

=

What the world? In olden days, if you had 100MR unbuffed, you were in decent shape as a level 10 rogue PK for backstabbing sitting casters at orc hilll.

50-60 was never adequate. Its what you ran with as a poor guy (2X 7svm bracers, bloodstained mantle, DRT and a shiny brass shield if you weren't dual wielding. It was certainly not enough to be anywhere near good to go. It was a good effort and might be enough to get you to a zone line.

Resists seem a little funny here, but things were never that easy.

[Nirgon]

Bitter pill to swallow.

Esp when I saw that and realized I would have to come forward, say it and agree with it.

:/

Root was in fact a non issue against players with any kind of resist buffs/gear in a classic system. It is known.

[Tycko]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The cleric had to gate in the original encounter after being near death and came back @ the end when it was only me and you. Yes, I had PVE aggro so I had to leave @ that point of time. I'd also point out that our members were in their low 50's, the cleric had 20m and the enchanter, Arbie, was actually completely OOM, but yet Cocaine / Zozo / Action / mindsculptor or whoever, all were dirtnapped, fallen forced to flee. Anyway, the only point in even mentioning the encounter wasn't to get into a dick measuring contest, but to point out that with all of that CC that you guys had, I amazingly was not rooted or mezzed the entire fight.

The point here is you don't have the facts, so stop putting out false information on our forums. The cleric didn't gate. That is why you accepted LnS, also funny that you don't want this to be a dick measuring yet your tone indicates otherwise.