Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?

[fortior]

pearls before swine, troxx

[Troxx]

If, on character creation, a player could choose one (and only one) race specific perk. And assuming that whatever class or race you could choose ... you could choose any other race perk.

-99.9999% of characters would chose regen
-cause innate regen in classic EQ (p99) is OP

I don't think that on any class i have played i would choose FSI over regen.

Regen > FSI

[fortior]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If, on character creation, a player could choose one (and only one) race specific perk. And assuming that whatever class or race you could choose ... you could choose any other race perk.

-99.9999% of characters would chose regen
-cause innate regen in classic EQ (p99) is OP

I don't think that on any class i have played i would choose FSI over regen.

Regen > FSI

I would pick gnome vision on every character

#2 would be racial sneak on a class without sneak

#3 would be regen for me

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would pick gnome vision on every character

#2 would be racial sneak on a class without sneak

#3 would be regen for me

I do agree with you on sneak, forgot about that one. Being able to vendor anywhere regardless of faction is wonderful.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If, on character creation, a player could choose one (and only one) race specific perk. And assuming that whatever class or race you could choose ... you could choose any other race perk.

-99.9999% of characters would chose regen
-cause innate regen in classic EQ (p99) is OP

I don't think that on any class i have played i would choose FSI over regen.

Regen > FSI

Innate Regeneration is OP on most classes. No disagreement. I would only pick FSI on Shamans to be honest. I prefer Troll Shadowknights and Troll Warriors. I have a 60 Troll Shadowknight myself! I played a Troll Warrior on live. I also think Male Trolls are the best model in the game, due to their great armor graphics and superior animations. For some reason the Troll animator did a better job than the animators on the other races. It isn't like I have some strange Ogre bias. Shamwowi is the only Ogre I have ever made. If anything I have a Troll bias.

I also agree with this statement:

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A level 60 shaman with torpor doesn't need regen anymore.
I agree.
You agree.
We all agree!
They don't need a fungi tunic - drop it for vindi bp
They don't have to obsess about keeping regrowth up - it is LESS (but not entirely) relevent.
It's why a barbarian shaman at 60 functions so well. If regen was that important, a barbarian shaman would not be successful - but they are.

The logic used to compare Vindi BP and Fungi Tunic is the same logic used to compare FSI and Innate Regeneration. Vindi BP's ability to randomly reduce damage spikes is superior to Fungi Tunic's consistent Regeneration on a Torpor Shaman. This is why FSI is the best racial for Shamans in terms of Min/Maxing. FSI's ability to randomly reduce damage spikes is superior to Innate Regeneration's consistent Regeneration on a Torpor Shaman.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Innate Regeneration is OP on most classes.

Glad we agree!

Regen is OP
Regen is more OP for a class that converts hp to mana
FSI is rarely a factor ever, much less to any game altering degree

Troll/iksar shaman > the rest

Yay!

Thread is over.

FSI almost as overrated as JBB!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad we agree!

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They don't need a fungi tunic - drop it for vindi bp

If you agree that Vindi BP is better than Fungi Tunic on a Torpor Shaman, you agree that FSI is better than Innate Regeneration on a Torpor Shaman.

The logic used to compare Vindi BP and Fungi Tunic is the same logic used to compare FSI and Innate Regeneration. Vindi BP's ability to randomly reduce damage spikes is superior to Fungi Tunic's consistent Regeneration on a Torpor Shaman. This is why FSI is the best racial for Shamans in terms of Min/Maxing. FSI's ability to randomly reduce damage spikes is superior to Innate Regeneration's consistent Regeneration on a Torpor Shaman.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troll/iksar shaman > the rest

FSI almost as overrated as JBB!

Incorrect.

[fortior]

it's not just faction, but a lot of quests work with indifferent faction as well, the big one being turning in dain's head to KT which is a huge hassle if you're not intending to be giant factioned (I'm currently on this annoying grind)

you can also use sneak together with FD for trickery and shenanigans, though shaman only gets 2 FD charges so it wouldn't be as good. it would work for a necro or SK though.

IMO gnome vision is an actual racial perk that matters and racial sneak kind of is, but it's more just a really nice convenience that you can't get another way. regen is nice on melees since it stacks with fungi (not impacted by the worn regen cap) and I guess on necros without a vp staff. everything else is whatever. on a fresh server, big races have a huge stat advantage for martial classes, like at green launch the adage was 'if it can be an ogre, pick ogre', but that was because ogres start with twice the strength of other races in an era with +3 str items.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not just faction, but a lot of quests work with indifferent faction as well, the big one being turning in dain's head to KT which is a huge hassle if you're not intending to be giant factioned (I'm currently on this annoying grind)

you can also use sneak together with FD for trickery and shenanigans, though shaman only gets 2 FD charges so it wouldn't be as good. it would work for a necro or SK though.

Agreed! being able to do any quest that requires indiff or lower is awesome. And I do wish Shaman FD ring has more charges.

[Duik]

So sneak > FSI. Got it.