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Old 09-15-2023, 09:03 PM
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They run off half cocked and muck it up quite a bit too. Butt still the good guys cuz the Feds will just innefectually naval gaze and not take any risks whatsoever.
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:08 PM
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Oh and just because they aren't "saints" or the best of the best or a part of the Federation or whatever. It's clear they aren't "bad ppl" tho it's clear that the Federation sees them as galactic trash not worth a second look. "In the way of progress".

In this way, both the Federation and Cardies under-estimate them badly on multiple occasions.

It was rly well done. One of treks high points. And much better than a lot of the modern stuff.
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:18 PM
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They run off half cocked and muck it up quite a bit too. Butt still the good guys cuz the Feds will just innefectually naval gaze and not take any risks whatsoever.
with the Maquis being at war with the cardassians, they would have every right to hi-jack the replicators.

These weren't the ones where Picard orders Tea, Earl Gray, Hot.

These were industrial units capable of cranking out war ships and weapons. The Federation was basically giving the cardassians an unlimited supply of military hardware.

Section 31 had already known of the changelings, so their strategy was to arm the cardies for the inevitable war with the gamma quadrant, but being as good as any intelligence agency on earth, they were unable to predict that the cardies would align with the changelings.

You're right, history does exonerate both the maquis and eddington
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:24 PM
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It was rly well done. One of treks high points. And much better than a lot of the modern stuff.
it's such a shame that no TV show in the past 10 years can even come close to a show like DS9

but now everyone is sick to death of girl-boss mary-sue in every form of visual media. it's just all so super CRINGE.

so maybe in a couple years we'll get back to well-written shows. I hope the hollywood writers strike never goes back to work, they aren't worth a fuckin free hot dog for the garbage they put out.

AI can do the job of 50 hollywood writers, with a handful of actually good writers filling in the gaps the AI missed.

the future of film does look bright, if those latte chugging tattoo ridden, pierced, pink haired deviants finally get the kick in the ass they deserve.

a kick to the unemployment line

There hasn't been a good TV show since breaking bad (better call saul is in this cat.)

Those candy ass writers on strike need to understand that they are no longer needed.
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:46 PM
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it's such a shame that no TV show in the past 10 years can even come close to a show like DS9

but now everyone is sick to death of girl-boss mary-sue in every form of visual media. it's just all so super CRINGE.

so maybe in a couple years we'll get back to well-written shows. I hope the hollywood writers strike never goes back to work, they aren't worth a fuckin free hot dog for the garbage they put out.

AI can do the job of 50 hollywood writers, with a handful of actually good writers filling in the gaps the AI missed.

the future of film does look bright, if those latte chugging tattoo ridden, pierced, pink haired deviants finally get the kick in the ass they deserve.

a kick to the unemployment line

There hasn't been a good TV show since breaking bad (better call saul is in this cat.)

Those candy ass writers on strike need to understand that they are no longer needed.
Yeah
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:48 PM
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with the Maquis being at war with the cardassians, they would have every right to hi-jack the replicators.

These weren't the ones where Picard orders Tea, Earl Gray, Hot.

These were industrial units capable of cranking out war ships and weapons. The Federation was basically giving the cardassians an unlimited supply of military hardware.

Section 31 had already known of the changelings, so their strategy was to arm the cardies for the inevitable war with the gamma quadrant, but being as good as any intelligence agency on earth, they were unable to predict that the cardies would align with the changelings.

You're right, history does exonerate both the maquis and eddington
Yeah I was imagining 3d printed ammo
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:18 PM
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with the Maquis being at war with the cardassians, they would have every right to hi-jack the replicators.

These weren't the ones where Picard orders Tea, Earl Gray, Hot.

These were industrial units capable of cranking out war ships and weapons. The Federation was basically giving the cardassians an unlimited supply of military hardware.

Section 31 had already known of the changelings, so their strategy was to arm the cardies for the inevitable war with the gamma quadrant, but being as good as any intelligence agency on earth, they were unable to predict that the cardies would align with the changelings.

You're right, history does exonerate both the maquis and eddington
I mean, Sisko did forge a data recorder to bring the Romulans into the war, look the other way after a murder, and then delete all his emails. Space Clinton. If Sisko is the Chaotic Good to Picard's Lawful Good, I could see a Chaotic Neutral Section 31 arming the Cardassian Union.


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it's such a shame that no TV show in the past 10 years can even come close to a show like DS9

but now everyone is sick to death of girl-boss mary-sue in every form of visual media. it's just all so super CRINGE.

so maybe in a couple years we'll get back to well-written shows. I hope the hollywood writers strike never goes back to work, they aren't worth a fuckin free hot dog for the garbage they put out.

AI can do the job of 50 hollywood writers, with a handful of actually good writers filling in the gaps the AI missed.

the future of film does look bright, if those latte chugging tattoo ridden, pierced, pink haired deviants finally get the kick in the ass they deserve.

a kick to the unemployment line

There hasn't been a good TV show since breaking bad (better call saul is in this cat.)

Those candy ass writers on strike need to understand that they are no longer needed.
Let's be real probably over half of DS9 episodes are utter shit, and it takes years of scholarly monkly study to skip the right episodes to make it a GOAT series. It's very out of place but Gul Dukat transitioning into a Bajoran and fucking his way into their Vatican in order to release the demon in its catacomb is peak Star Trek
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:55 PM
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I mean, Sisko did forge a data recorder to bring the Romulans into the war, look the other way after a murder, and then delete all his emails. Space Clinton. If Sisko is the Chaotic Good to Picard's Lawful Good, I could see a Chaotic Neutral Section 31 arming the Cardassian Union.


Let's be real probably over half of DS9 episodes are utter shit, and it takes years of scholarly monkly study to skip the right episodes to make it a GOAT series. It's very out of place but Gul Dukat transitioning into a Bajoran and fucking his way into their Vatican in order to release the demon in its catacomb is peak Star Trek
I just nap thru those ones.
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Old 09-16-2023, 12:02 AM
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About the only ds9 episode that really annoys me is the one where gul dukat kidnaps kiera onto that other station where he's making babies of himself by impregnating the cultists.

It's not even that bad tho. Kiera just is way too fucking patient. I would have gone into the core. Blown the airlocks. Let everyone suffocate. Then radiod sisko for a ride once I had free run of the place. I mean. She WAS a terrorist and had intimate knowledge of how those stations worked and both of the cultists and dukat where idiots.

Her only reason not to was her ex mentor monk friend butt he was so far gone I think it would have been in character for her to just pull the plug.

Let the prophets sort it out.
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Old 09-16-2023, 12:05 AM
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G-d and Jesus aren't space commies per see they still want people to do for themselves. Prime directive sorta. Just they don't see good in starvation and torture. They won't feed space druggies they send them to rehab facilities. Or refugee camps. All of which have super strict rules and limits on lifestyle. Hence you get all those idiots riding out to the frontier and becoming maquee instead of signing up as infrantry during the dominion wars. It's a mess. Butt it's not really the Federations fault.
If you think about it, the Dominion War is a fucking disaster. Growing up I always wondered why people were so fucking gung ho about joining Starfleet, then I realized, within the show's universe, all those slobs on remote outposts were studying some Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings shit going down on these primitive planets. No wonder Worf's brother couldn't resist inserting himself into that planet's religion. They didn't have time to flesh it out in a 44 minute episode, but he was clearly that planet's Gandalf. They joined up to go out into the frontier to study that shit and then got thrown into a meatgrinder.

Also makes the prime directive make an insane amount of sense on a personal level. You can imagine the temptation to join Starfleet so you can become a God. Probably what Jesus was now that I think about it... just another redshirt
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