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Old 11-12-2023, 01:56 AM
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I'm counting 2 button presses and 6 mouse clicks, which is around 240 APM. That's doable, but at StarCraft professional levels to sustain.
Starcraft players are constantly moving their mouse long distances across the screen. This weapon swapping just requires clicking in the same tiny triangle over and over. Tedious, but mechanically much easier.

Someone should look into programming a macro. Shouldn't be hard to create one for this function. AutoHotkey, etc.
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Old 11-12-2023, 12:38 PM
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Someone should look into programming a macro. Shouldn't be hard to create one for this function. AutoHotkey, etc.
I dont think this is possible using the macro system integrated by the original devs. Anything using external software, whether linked to an auxiliary device (keyboard/mouse) or not, is a bannable offense.

Lots of bards got permabanned years back for this same crap. Unfortunately some of the most "elite raiders" have allegedly scripted and cheated for years but apparently they are smarter than the average basic bard (even if barely).

My opinion is that this via manual control is just it's not a sustainable method even if done properly (which is difficult). Any error and you are missing MH swings and losing massive dps. It's just better to level up a bane wizard or re-roll a rogue.
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Old 11-13-2023, 11:04 AM
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Starcraft players are constantly moving their mouse long distances across the screen. This weapon swapping just requires clicking in the same tiny triangle over and over. Tedious, but mechanically much easier.

Someone should look into programming a macro. Shouldn't be hard to create one for this function. AutoHotkey, etc.
You still have to accurately click points on screen. Starcraft players also have a higher number of keypresses and there are plenty of mouse clicks that are close together while microing fights.

240 APM is possible, but extremely aggressive. Very few people are going to be able to do this successfully.

I do suspect that if you can do this very well the impact is moderate, not trivial. From what I remember, Jayya's offhand is about 25 dps, and as long as you can get a high delay offhander with good ratio (Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn maybe?) you can probably add ~20 dps if you never screw up. I just don't think most people can do this.
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Old 11-08-2023, 11:11 PM
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Yea I think zuran is just trolling us. Tried the OH thing on my monk in the 30s. Was dumb. If you wipe on a raid because every melee wasn’t swapping out 2h for < 1 dps, you prob deserved to wipe anyway.
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:38 AM
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With max haste I think this is impossible. I swap weapons and gear constantly. I'm not able to do this maneuver successfully without missing 2h damage.
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Old 11-10-2023, 10:03 AM
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Same Naethyn. Not happening
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:08 PM
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Even if it was possible to eke out slightly higher DPS with this method (I'm skeptical), no one is realistically doing this for more than a minute or two at a time for shits and giggles (i.e. for the challenge of maxing their parse). Nobody wants to sustain 240 APM for such a miniscule - and frankly unnoticeable and entirely unneeded - increase in damage.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:13 PM
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Even if it was possible to eke out slightly higher DPS with this method (I'm skeptical), no one is realistically doing this for more than a minute or two at a time for shits and giggles (i.e. for the challenge of maxing their parse). Nobody wants to sustain 240 APM for such a miniscule - and frankly unnoticeable and entirely unneeded - increase in damage.
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Old 11-10-2023, 12:36 PM
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Consensus has been reached. Let’s close down this line of conversation.
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Old 11-10-2023, 01:04 PM
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I can out damage a magician in group using this sustained 5dps strategy.
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