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Old 05-17-2021, 08:11 PM
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I think a question we could discuss here is what someone would like Hamas to do, or would like israel to do to conclude the present conflict.

Talking about how many people die on one side vs how many people die on the other is a bit silly, since it doesn't indicate anything except which side is stronger. Even the strongest nation (USA) can't stop Hamas style terrorism with proportionality. When did proportional killing somehow become the correct way. "We kill 1 person in Hamas occupied palestine for ever 1 person in Israel that is killed"


Besides, US government just sends paypal of like 20,000 dollar worth of bitcoin to hamas to re-start missile attacks whenever they need US population to stop paying attention to domestic policy and impending hyper inflation. "Better heat up the middle east!"
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:47 PM
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I think a question we could discuss here is what someone would like Hamas to do, or would like israel to do to conclude the present conflict.

Talking about how many people die on one side vs how many people die on the other is a bit silly, since it doesn't indicate anything except which side is stronger. Even the strongest nation (USA) can't stop Hamas style terrorism with proportionality. When did proportional killing somehow become the correct way. "We kill 1 person in Hamas occupied palestine for ever 1 person in Israel that is killed"


Besides, US government just sends paypal of like 20,000 dollar worth of bitcoin to hamas to re-start missile attacks whenever they need US population to stop paying attention to domestic policy and impending hyper inflation. "Better heat up the middle east!"
I hope you’re wrong about inflation!! But yeah it does seem like we are about to pay for the $6 trillion spending experiment
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:09 PM
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Jib's point is that the argument is dumb. Hamas is a piece of shit organization, confirmed.

Israel is a piece of shit organization, confirmed.

Neither side looks like a good one to be on.

So what does a solution look like? If you think Israel is the bad guy, what do you think israel should do, and why do you think it would be successful given the rich history of Israel giving land and other concessions to their enemies who then re-engage in warfare.

If you think Hamas is the bad guy, what do you think Hamas should do and why do you think it would be successful given the rich history of Hamas
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:45 PM
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Jib's point is that the argument is dumb. Hamas is a piece of shit organization, confirmed.

Israel is a piece of shit organization, confirmed.

Neither side looks like a good one to be on.

So what does a solution look like? If you think Israel is the bad guy, what do you think israel should do, and why do you think it would be successful given the rich history of Israel giving land and other concessions to their enemies who then re-engage in warfare.

If you think Hamas is the bad guy, what do you think Hamas should do and why do you think it would be successful given the rich history of Hamas
gustoo I just saw your post and yea, your questions are better, loramin answer these, and by defacto answer mine.

Also we should go into the "rich history" of the sides the Palestinians have chosen over the last 100 years wars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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But yes I do agree, Israel should, as the party with precision weapons, stop bombing civilians. But the argument that the Palestinians dindu nuffin is garbage
But my question is what are some sort of possible solutions that haven't been tried before?

What's a solution that could work now that we're somehow missing?

How accurate are these tacticle strikes? are they knowingly targeting buildings with civilians and children in them? or are they learning about that too and re-assessing? Idk, there is a lot to unpack...

but I say this: if you imidiatly unpack israel is killing kids and that hamas is doing nothing but getting wrecked, jew or asian, you're spewing anti-Semitic blood libel rhetoric.
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:34 PM
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You're right, what they normalize accusing the jew of is way worse.
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:04 PM
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You're right, what they normalize accusing the jew of is way worse.
Who is this proverbial Jew you speak of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Jews_in_Russia
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ferent-groups/

Few communities, even small ones, are culturally or socially monolithic. That is the case with Israeli Jews: There are only about 6 million Jews living in Israel, but there are major religious, social and political chasms that divide Jews within the borders of this small nation. Haredim, Datiim, Masortim, Hilonim.
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:17 PM
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Who is this proverbial Jew you speak of?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Jews_in_Russia
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ferent-groups/

Few communities, even small ones, are culturally or socially monolithic. That is the case with Israeli Jews: There are only about 6 million Jews living in Israel, but there are major religious, social and political chasms that divide Jews within the borders of this small nation. Haredim, Datiim, Masortim, Hilonim.
https://www.adl.org/education/resour...ms/blood-libel
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And since it's an occupation, what country is Palestine if it were not occupied and who were it's allies before it became occupied by the colonialist jews?
What even is this question, really?



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I'm fascinated by the illiberal left's love affair with Islam. Aren't they the party of feminism and separation of church and state?

Maybe we need to arm Palestine as much as we arm Israel so we could see how the religion of peace reacts when they have potent weapons of war instead of sticks, rocks, and Russian trash bought off the Syrians.
I mean, I don't think we root for Palestine because we love Islam, bro.
I think as a decent human being, when you see a country being occupied for 60 years+, where over 50% of the kids have lost their will to live, where 2 million people live in less than 300km square (dude, in comparison, imagine if Houston had the same population but was roughly 10 times smaller and nobody could escape the city) and who don't have access to clean, drinking water and have electricity on average 4 hours a day and where unemployment is in the 50%, your heart sinks, a little.

Normal human beings don't enjoy watching an occupied territory with no army having their hospitals being blown up. Normal people don't like to see children being shot at by a country just protecting itself. (against unarmed kids)

Most people look at those conditions and want an end to this.
Not everyone I guess.
Some revel in it.

And all the people without an high school diploma who think university are bad ended up being virology experts during the pandemic and now, I guess they are political experts on the israelo-palestinian conflict.

Make sense.
Dunning-Kruger in full swing.
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Old 05-17-2021, 10:06 PM
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I mean, I don't think we root for Palestine because we love Islam, bro.
I think as a decent human being, when you see a country being occupied for 60 years+, where over 50% of the kids have lost their will to live, where 2 million people live in less than 300km square (dude, in comparison, imagine if Houston had the same population but was roughly 10 times smaller and nobody could escape the city) and who don't have access to clean, drinking water and have electricity on average 4 hours a day and where unemployment is in the 50%, your heart sinks, a little.

Normal human beings don't enjoy watching an occupied territory with no army having their hospitals being blown up. Normal people don't like to see children being shot at by a country just protecting itself. (against unarmed kids)

Most people look at those conditions and want an end to this.
Not everyone I guess.
Some revel in it.

And all the people without an high school diploma who think university are bad ended up being virology experts during the pandemic and now, I guess they are political experts on the israelo-palestinian conflict.

Make sense.
Dunning-Kruger in full swing.
The illiberal left's love for Islam extends beyond Palestine. "New record, first woman to do ______ in a hijab." Yes, let's cheer for a woman who manages to pull off something wearing a symbol of her oppression as if it's some sort of empowerment. Meanwhile, back home, honor killings.
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