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Old 06-15-2021, 01:32 AM
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A lot of rly gr8 music in luclin pplz.
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Old 06-16-2021, 10:28 PM
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+1 for Luclin.

EQ was vastly better past Velious. Classes were developed, itemization was better, bosses actually had mechanics over boring AF mindless tank and CH macro. Luclin and PoP were better in every way. I disagreed with the enormous power jump in PoP but whatever.

WTF hasnt someone launched a 1 ... ONE... 1 true box, Planes of Power Emu server? TRUE TO ERA. DO IT. p2002 might get more than 100 players if it werent a crappy 3 box server. its actually pretty great otherwise.
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Old 06-17-2021, 02:07 PM
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It's not better, its just those things you described.

Luclin + literally deletes the entire old world + kunark + velious. Old world items are like complete garbage, old world zones not really needed at all...ghost town. ETC.

So yeah at level 60 you get cooler items. AA points let you do cool insane things.

But every aspect of actual everquest is stabbed in the heart and head chopped off.

So its a cool game, and you should play p2002

but people are playing here because "classic" everquest is different, and the people here like it.

For reals play the TLP server starkind and others are playing I bet you would love that.
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Old 06-17-2021, 02:11 PM
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It's not better, its just those things you described.

Luclin + literally deletes the entire old world + kunark + velious. Old world items are like complete garbage, old world zones not really needed at all...ghost town. ETC.

So yeah at level 60 you get cooler items. AA points let you do cool insane things.

But every aspect of actual everquest is stabbed in the heart and head chopped off.

So its a cool game, and you should play p2002

but people are playing here because "classic" everquest is different, and the people here like it.

For reals play the TLP server starkind and others are playing I bet you would love that.
Yeah. No point in luclin only server when u can really enjoy luclin at your own pace.

TLP is a great break from classic.
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Old 06-17-2021, 11:01 PM
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Planes of Power was probably my favorite expansion. Didn't play to many more after that, though.
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Old 06-18-2021, 04:34 AM
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It's not better, its just those things you described.

Luclin + literally deletes the entire old world + kunark + velious. Old world items are like complete garbage, old world zones not really needed at all...ghost town. ETC.

So yeah at level 60 you get cooler items. AA points let you do cool insane things.

But every aspect of actual everquest is stabbed in the heart and head chopped off.

So its a cool game, and you should play p2002

but people are playing here because "classic" everquest is different, and the people here like it.

For reals play the TLP server starkind and others are playing I bet you would love that.
I'm not sure if you know this but Velious literally deletes kunark + old world as well except for some clicky items and a couple quest items that were introduced to kunark after velious anyways.

Go back and look at the luclin aa's, there's nothing "insane", it's all just good quality of life stuff and slow/steady power increases. You don't see the "insane" AA's till later in the game.

What is the "aspect of actual everquest"? Please shake your fist at the clouds more. Luclin was fantastic and PoP was the pinnacle of EQ. People are playing here because it started out as a classic server, it no longer is, and because there was no other game in town. If there was a true/single box server that went up to Luclin or PoP the population of p99 would plummet.
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:23 AM
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the stuff that made tlp was the gating and quests like vt key that were just straight up bottle necks, so on live most of that stuff for most of that content is relaxed or not even needed

anyway, a luclin only server would be fun for a bit, but it really is a mediocre unfinished expansion

even pop has a lot of unfinished ness to it, and it was obvious the devs were checking out with pop (EQ should have went to the planes to help their respective gods and have real story not just kill them (this is were some later expansions go a little bit))
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Old 06-18-2021, 08:56 AM
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I’d be curious to see some examples of “unfinished” you refer to
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Old 06-18-2021, 03:42 PM
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I’d be curious to see some examples of “unfinished” you refer to
it wasn't particularly egregious but:
- grimling war/acrylia caverns storyline quest was broken for quite a while, this was supposed to be the 'casual' path and required less players than ssra or seru
- vex thal key quest was intentionally broken for a bit while VT was completed. VT went live with a completely different mob set (and also about 2x the trash as the 'finished' version)
- seru bane weapons either weren't working or were unobtainable... i can't remember, either way lord inquisitor seru was much harder to kill than intended until bane weapons were fixed/available
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:37 PM
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My big gripe about pop mostly is we don't ally with our gods and quest for them and everything is in pop.

My wizard worships errollisi. She was kos to the armor suit golems in halls of honor. Now she's kos to everything there cuz they attacked her and her Goddesses partner, whatever is now a loot pinata. I ran around invis and hailed some of the named npcs b4 the golems wrecked my faction. They don't say anything...

There's tons of stuff like this it's obvious every expansion was really ambitious but the board of investors, cfo, producers had to pull the plug on development at the last month and quick itemization and named mobs were hacked in to get a release.

As much as ppl bitch about blizzard, and as much as they have come from the opposite direction, being skimpy on art and heavy handed with itemization and loot piñatas, they actually did way better than SoE in the coherent storyline and thematic faction department.

It's quite obvious Seru, and Tsaph r both vampires. Bertoxxulous should have had us corrupting and toppling a city in his own expansion. And Sol Ro should have sent us back in time to stop the combine empire from defeating The Rathe Council, etc... that got shelved and handed to whoever is the big boss of the plane of Discord in SoD, etc..


Anyway There's plenty of scraps left behind and great stuff to infer, and I personally think 2 expansions back should definitely just be soloable. There's no point in those expansions dying and falling into oblivion within two years. Expscs are like $80 bucks, definitely should get at least 5 years out of them, 1 year for the mmo competition. And then let the casual scum see them.

On live most people didn't even see the elemental planes until late into OoW.
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