"Need before greed"

[cd288]

Originally Posted by PabloEdvardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone needs pp and there's been enough time for loot to flood the market that even a lowbie can gear up easily.

If "everyone" needs pp then it's not very easy for a lowbie to gear up because they have none. There's also not much loot in the market, and much of it is being sold for pretty exorbitant prices for what it is.

[KelticKope]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If "everyone" needs pp then it's not very easy for a lowbie to gear up because they have none. There's also not much loot in the market, and much of it is being sold for pretty exorbitant prices for what it is.

I have leveled a fresh toon to 30 and have earned a rough equivalent to 2.5K along the way. it is hardly impossible for new players to get coin. And I am far from a hard core player. I sold almost all belts/sashes/ears/scalps I looted.

Lowbie gear is often selling for 10-150pp a piece, many pieces 20,30,40pp each. And hunting wil-o-wisps will earn plenty of plat to get some basic gear

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If "everyone" needs pp then it's not very easy for a lowbie to gear up because they have none. There's also not much loot in the market, and much of it is being sold for pretty exorbitant prices for what it is.

There's lots of lowbie loot available on the market. They can also win rolls for equippable items, even if others roll on it too, not just ones they can sell.

[Trexller]

Of course if you would like to help that player with the item, why not do it?

People say "Pass" on rolled loot all the time.

That's the point, they had the chance to either roll on the item or say "Pass"

The concept of NBG excludes anyone who "cannot immediately use" from ever having a chance at the item that they helped to drop.

I am not that person. I play an SK, and I expect my other group members to roll on the Dark Reaver that they just helped to drop.

It is a great weapon for me, but I would not have ever seen it drop, without the other members of that group.

[Jimjam]

You're seeing NBG as a tool others use to suppress you. Instead see it as a tool you can use help others. Greed is the default, you can instead chose to pass by your own volition.

Stop worrying about nerds trying to get one over you.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're seeing NBG as a tool others use to suppress you. Instead see it as a tool you can use help others. Greed is the default, you can instead chose to pass by your own volition.

Stop worrying about nerds trying to get one over you.

When I fight a mob with a group, and that group tells me I’m not allowed to roll on the fruits of our labor, nerds are very much trying to get one over on me.

Someone above me said ‘fairness is a subjective concept’ and that’s true to some degree, but let’s take a look at the definition of fairness..

“Impartial and just treatment or behavior without favoritism or discrimination”

NBG literally tells people who worked for something they’re excluded from a chance at the item. Period. Discrimination based on class or race. It is about as rude/greedy as you can be. That’s why I am baffled at all these people acting like they’re the righteous martyrs of the world with their NBG mindset, when the reality is they’re being incredibly rude to those they’re excluding.

Wronging over others in order to do right by someone else, doesn’t make it any less wrong of an action. “A disasters a disaster no matter what christian language you drag it through” by the great Manchester Orchestra comes to mind.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I fought a mob with a group and that group tells me I’m not allowed to roll on the fruits of our labor, nerds are very much trying to get one over on me.

NBG literally tells people who worked for something they’re excluded from a chance at the item. Period.It is about as rude/greedy as you can be. That’s why I am baffled at all these people acting like they’re the righteous martyrs of the world with their NBG mindset, when the reality is they’re being incredibly rude to those they’re excluding.

Wronging over others in order to do right by someone else, doesn’t make it any less wrong of an action. “A disasters a disaster no matter what christian language you drag it through” by the great Manchester Orchestra comes to mind.

we live in a society

[Evia]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we live in a society

The irony

[diodio]

Flowing Black Silk Sash
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: WAIST
Haste: +21%
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Can cleric roll the sash or run NBG give it to tank or melee dps ?

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by diodio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flowing Black Silk Sash
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM
Slot: WAIST
Haste: +21%
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Can cleric roll the sash or run NBG give it to tank or melee dps ?

They should roll on it then sell it and buy 15k worth of items. Or give it to an alt because it makes no difference since they won the roll and its theirs to do whatever they want with.