Common Man's ToV Raid Scene

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats the thing tho. pvp makes friendships and grudges between players actually mean something.

if you take out the EC tunnel AFK's and the people AFK camping nameds on blue you have the same pop as red with no global chat, and also most people on the server are big whiny babies who are afraid of dying in a 17 year old emulated elf game.

Laughable to suggest an average of 800 people afk in ec and camping nameds. Nobody wants to die in this game, it is lost progress. Are you suggesting all the zone line plug pulling activity on your server is coincidental internet connectivity loss?

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Laughable to suggest an average of 800 people afk in ec and camping nameds. Nobody wants to die in this game, it is lost progress. Are you suggesting all the zone line plug pulling activity on your server is coincidental internet connectivity loss?

for most plugging isn't about being afraid of dying. pvp itself is a secondary goal to getting someone to spaz out at you. plugging is a good way to frustrate someone towards that goal.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for most plugging isn't about being afraid of dying. pvp itself is a secondary goal to getting someone to spaz out at you. plugging is a good way to frustrate someone towards that goal.

cant say it better

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Laughable to suggest an average of 800 people afk in ec and camping nameds. Nobody wants to die in this game, it is lost progress. Are you suggesting all the zone line plug pulling activity on your server is coincidental internet connectivity loss?

You don't lose exp or any progress at all on red. But isn't losing progress on death a big part of the appeal of Everquest over modern MMORPG's? Keep in mind the context, we're playing one of the only games you can lose levels.

When I plug pull I always got a group of at least 3-6 friends or guildies willing to drop what they're doing on a moment's notice to rescue me & I'm one of the most disliked players on red. I can see how the server would be hard to play on if you were socially retarded and had no friends, but red has a very welcoming and tight knit community as long as you pay your dues (get to 60 without whining about pvp and quitting)

[fan D]

its not a debate, its not an opinion

red is more fun than blue

[Sweettouch]

Can we focus on fixing a toxic raiding scene on the one server before talking about red?k thanks

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we focus on fixing a toxic raiding scene on the one server before talking about red?k thanks

its not gonna happen. you guys are big crybabies and you have too many rules. the blue raid scene will never be classic and you will always need to be a professor of obscure forum post rules to lead raids. that's why we're talking about red, the server with a classic & more challenging raid scene with more opportunities for new guilds.

[Gimp]

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[Elmarnieh]

Pointing out that it doesn't seem impossible for one guild to dominate ToV in the era of CoH racing.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pointing out that it doesn't seem impossible for one guild to dominate ToV in the era of CoH racing.

Vulak
LTK
Zlex
Mir
Aary
Cekenar
Jorlleag
Telk

Looks pretty even to me.