Forsaken is a bait and switch guild, warning to all players

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

loot council basically means "if we dont like you we can decide to not give you loot" or "we like you so were going to give you loot early" there is no logical reason for it to exist in any DKP system

i mean DKP got popular specifically because it is seen as a way to make loot councils unnecessary

on live you wanted to gear key classes / players first for the race

but that was never an issue, since you'd only recruit people that understood such things, so flat dkp worked out fine

those key classes / players were the ones that made most DKP in most cases

the schemes people fall for on this server are hilarious

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Sodors Finest Poster here,

Its time to bomb this thread, we had our fun but its getting bad (even for rnf standards).

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[Jimjam]

Something that was mentioned as an advantage of loot council is it can be used to reward people who do intra-raid leg work, such as tracking.

Why not pay DKP for such jobs?

I suppose this could create an extra layer of politicking amongst the most eager nerds as they'll bicker amongst themselves over who gets to do the jobs and so earn the DKP?

Another problem people mentioned with DKP is that guilds may want to gear up key classes. I suppose in this situation they can add DKP multipliers for those classes (lets say they want to gear out some main tanks, perhaps warriors earn an extra n% dkp, which needs to be spent within a certain timeframe, thus allowing the warriors to bid big but also incentivising them to spend quick too).

Just some thoughts from someone who knows more or less nothing.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Something that was mentioned as an advantage of loot council is it can be used to reward people who do intra-raid leg work, such as tracking.

Why not pay DKP for such jobs?

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----- that was brought up in the forsaken meeting as well, but leadership rebuked it with some odd reasoning on why it wouldn't work. Something about people being in different time zones doing tracking in prime time for them, when it's odd hours for the majority of the people in the guild, and yet they get a "premium" DKP for the work when in reality it was just 5pm on a friday for them. So of course it'd be unfair to make it work. /boggle


but loot council! yeah! loot council with dkp! that makes so much fucking sense!

[Tuljin]

Workin' for the man

[MaksimMazor]

Lol

[snow_man]

@OP, wow, so many gaps in your story... "An Item I can use" aka a NToV BiS Item... Guessing during your brief 40% self calculated sounds like you are loot hungry and not willing to work for it.

@Wah they changed the policy, every top tier guild does it...Rampage did it, Taken's done, I don't know inner workings of asguard, but im sure they've done, hell even BDA did it (except their policy just changed to /we surrender!)

@Myself - was trying to convince myself not to join forsaken, sadly this helped thread started making me think about joining them...
@Dottedup - Don't bomb my email! I was saying thinking of joining not am joining/need more spam from you, I get enough spam from you in game!
@OP - Wow you failed in your thread.

[Uton]

why is this 22 pages, who gives a fuck?

[stonez138]

Umbrella is a sack of shit. The sorriest cunt I've ever had the misfortune of being guilded with.

[snow_man]

Lol doesn't asgard = forsaken, just with a pure loot council? How is any better than what OP is crying about...