Bernie Sanders at his best

[Patriam1066]

https://www.boundless.com/u-s-histor...iffs-562-9448/

In his "Report on Manufactures," Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton proposed a far-reaching plan to use protective tariffs as a lever for rapid industrialization. The industrial age was just starting, and the United States had little or no textile industry, which was the keystone of early industrial societies. The British government tried to maintain their near monopoly on cheap and efficient textile manufacturing by prohibiting the export of textile machines, machine models, or the emigration of people familiar with these machines. Cloth in the early United States was nearly all hand made, which was a time consuming and expensive process, whereas the new textile manufacturing techniques in Britain were often over 30 times cheaper. Hamilton believed that a stiff tariff on imports would not only raise income but "protect" and help subsidize early efforts at setting up manufacturing facilities that could compete with British products.

The high protectionist tariffs Hamilton originally called for were not adopted until after the War of 1812, when nationalists like Henry Clay and John C. Calhoun saw the need for more federal income and industry. In wartime, they declared, having a home industry was a necessity to avoid shortages. Likewise, owners of the small new factories that were springing up in the northeast to mass produce boots, hats, candles, nails, and other common items wanted higher tariffs that would significantly protect them for a time from more efficient British producers. When the Act was passed, it included a provision that allowed for a 10% discount on all items imported on American ships. This was done to ensure that American merchant marines would not financially suffer.

Bring back tariffs, crush monopolies, and end immigration entirely. The government doesn't need to redistribute income, it simply needs to work for the American laborer like it did in the past.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Bring back tariffs, crush monopolies, and end immigration entirely. The government doesn't need to redistribute income, it simply needs to work for the American laborer like it did in the past.

I'm with you on everything but the immigration. I also dont think that those first 2 are reliant on immigration.

I think we can do it all with Sanders.

[iruinedyourday]

Cat 5 hurricane materialized out of a storm in less than 24 hours, maybe the weather should be a top priority for national security. Yikes!

https://www.reddit.com/live/vsowstyv3er1

Get ready for our own version of the Syrian migration.

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you could not. By voting for a socialist government, you are attempting to use the power of the state to coerce me and the rest of the country into supporting your agenda. By voting for the free market, I am attempting to allow you to do whatever you please.

By voting for a free market, you're attempting to use the power of the state to coerce me and the rest of the country into living in a free market economy. It's the same damn thing. We're both voting to change the system at the expense of the other person's preferred ideology. The fact that you believe in some Jeffersonian fantasy of the free market where you sit on your plantation and big gubment can't give your money to blacks is inconsequential.

I bet you even believe tort law works to protect the environment in a free market system.

See, I can't 'do whatever I please' in a post-apocalyptic madhouse where all healthcare and education are totally for profit, the environment is all fucked up, humanity moved backwards, and greed won out over brotherhood. That's averse to the core of being. The only thing I'd want to do is leave.

[ronasch]

You lefties cry so much about higher wages but you constantly support illegal/legal immigration that floods this country with people who will work for less $$$. Thus driving wages lower, and making those "hated corporations" richer. The Liberal Elite only support immigration because it's another impoverished voting block they can exploit to gain political power.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See, I can't 'do whatever I please' in a post-apocalyptic madhouse where all healthcare and education are totally for profit, the environment is all fucked up, humanity moved backwards, and greed won out over brotherhood. That's averse to the core of being. The only thing I'd want to do is leave.

Let supply and demand balance out the market they said.

Let college tuition, healthcare and big pharma work itself out they said.

Its capitalism they said, it'll work itself out they said. It isn't creating an oligarchy they said.

Supply and demand they said.

No thanks, I've seen enough and the progress is stagnant. Let's wait 1,000 years to see if it "works itself out" through free market with an even freer market isn't rational.

We know where 50 years has taken us and its simply the wrong direction. People are losing opportunity for basic standards of living in 2015+. Time to hit the brakes. Reverse!

[Lune]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You lefties cry so much about higher wages but you constantly support illegal/legal immigration that floods this country with people who will work for less $$$. Thus driving wages lower, and making those "hated corporations" richer. The Liberal Elite only support immigration because it's another impoverished voting block they can exploit to gain political power.

That's true, but it's not a phenomenon that's unique to the left. Your typical redneck slob hates immigrants, but the Republicans he votes for will never do anything of substance to stop immigration precisely because of business interests. So we're pretty much fucked either way.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You lefties cry so much about higher wages but you constantly support illegal/legal immigration that floods this country with people who will work for less $$$. Thus driving wages lower, and making those "hated corporations" richer. The Liberal Elite only support immigration because it's another impoverished voting block they can exploit to gain political power.

that's why my pal, I rely on LAW to set the standard for how little people can be payed, not 'ideology' that results in people just paying employee's as little as possible.

[Ranndom]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cat 5 hurricane materialized out of a storm in less than 24 hours, maybe the weather should be a top priority for national security. Yikes!

https://www.reddit.com/live/vsowstyv3er1

Get ready for our own version of the Syrian migration.

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If whats happening in eastern countries atm came here it would be bloodshed. And a whole lot of it.
Also, isnt your nutcase Bernie claiming the greatest security threat we face is global warming? That dude is months away from dementia i swear

[sOurDieSel]

Both capitalism and socialism adhere to the cultural marxist ideology of multiculturalism which encourages massive 3rd world immigration causing both systems to fail--by deflating wages and draining public coffers for social services