Way to go Shadowshrek - Azure Guard

[stonez138]

(she said she "can't see" drop transfers, as they are not listed in the p99 log files in anyway).

This is odd as I had a gm reimburse me items that I had lost by accidently dropping them. Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.

[tristantio]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is odd as I had a gm reimburse me items that I had lost by accidently dropping them. Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.

A guide (Eunomia) can't see drop transfers - they require manual querying of the project1999 item database.

A GM can (but this is on a 6 month wait period for anything).

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is odd as I had a gm reimburse me items that I had lost by accidently dropping them. Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.

Different levels of access for different levels of staff. As a Guide, Eunomia doesn't have access to that information. Each type of staff has different permissions. This is a waste of her talents but that's not the point.

[paulgiamatti]

Also, I remember Sirken mentioning that it is possible for GMs to see if items rotted on the ground if they know what they're looking for.

Like, all I'm saying is Shrek would have to be god damned David Copperfield to pull this shit off, and he isn't god damned David Copperfield.

[Pokesan]

it sucks you're more concerned with your personal honor or whatever the hell than a guy in your guild stealing 70k+ in items, paul

keep spinning

[paulgiamatti]

What about anything I've written here demonstrates a concern with personal honor? It's always been about a guy who allegedly stole items, and that's what it still is about. If you're having trouble following along, that's your problem and not mine.

[Pokesan]

Wow, dude. That's insanely petty. What on earth do his group members have to do with this? Like, somehow I'm now guilty of screwing you over because someone in my guild decided to steal some stuff from you, and he just happened to be in my group when he hammered out and went linkdead.

Take it up with Azure Guard officers, or submit a petition in the petition forum. Don't condemn the whole guild or whoever happened to be grouped with him, which are completely arbitrary and irrelevant factors, you idiot.

A post in which you are more interested in shrieking about your honor being besmirched than righting a wrong committed by your guildmate.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A post in which you are more interested in shrieking about your honor being besmirched than righting a wrong committed by your guildmate.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is just a red herring though; it doesn't invalidate any of the things I said about pettiness and painting whole guilds with one brush just because one member happened to do something shitty.

And for the record, when someone engages in an idiotic campaign to slander an entire guild because they've been wronged by one person, I am going to do absolutely nothing at all to help them see justice. And shame on you for suggesting I shouldn't.

I really shouldn't need to point this out, but I am not at all off-base in saying that that was sheer pettiness. And I'm saying this not just in my own self-interest or my own self-defense, but in everyone else's as well. No one should put up with this kind of nonsense, and that should be painfully obvious. I didn't think I'd need to say it a fourth time, but there it is.

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At that particular instance, the guy was decked out in probably 20k worth of gear in his mid 20's and logged on a 60 enchanter, which he'd told the group was his prior to my arrival. He was "still learning" despite being heavily twinked early on (not too uncommon, I'll admit), but apparently "still learning" into his 50's? I'm just not buying it.

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since I can't edit for some reason, I'll add as an addendum to my post above, the guy was still pulling the same crap I talked about in his 20's, 40's, and 50's, all of which I witnessed first hand with different alts. I also heard 2nd hand he pulled the same stuff in groups I was not a part of, as mentioned earlier.

These are all fair points. I guess I'm just not as convinced as you are about his guiltiness, and I've had much different interactions and experiences with him than you have. I'm not one to give preference to guildmates either; anyone who knows me can attest to that. I'm not just arguing the other side because he is, as of now, a member of Azure Guard. I'm arguing the other side because I think it is strangely possible he might've just screwed up in the derpiest of ways possible and lost a bag of super expensive items.

So I guess my stance is more of an innocent-until-proven-guilty kind of stance. Each day that goes by while he remains silent makes it seem that much more suspicious, and makes him seem that much more guilty.

I say we bring him to the Hall of Truth and form a high council. I'll be the defense attorney, Bhear can be the prosecutor, Eunomia will be the judge and the jury. If he's found guilty, he shall be forthwith banished from Azure Guard, and Nemce will be forced to pay the plaintiff with his fungi tunic.

Afterward, we'll make sure he receives an official apology from Shadowshrek for his crimes: "Shrek do bad thing. Shrek sorry."

[PDX0621]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say we bring him to the Hall of Truth and form a high council. I'll be the defense attorney, Bhear can be the prosecutor, Eunomia will be the judge and the jury. If he's found guilty, he shall be forthwith banished from Azure Guard, and Nemce will be forced to pay the plaintiff with his fungi tunic.

Afterward, we'll make sure he receives an official apology from Shadowshrek for his crimes: "Shrek do bad thing. Shrek sorry."

Best idea I've heard all along. I'm in, but only if there's flogging. Where is Juntsie when we need him?!

[PDX0621]

Since I can't edit for some reason, I'll add as an addendum to my post above, the guy was still pulling the same crap I talked about in his 20's, 40's, and 50's, all of which I witnessed first hand with different alts. I also heard 2nd hand he pulled the same stuff in groups I was not a part of, as mentioned earlier.