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Old 05-27-2015, 10:59 PM
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Warping to a plane where a certain god or demi-god rules is aligned with classic EverQuest lore. Warping to outer space like we're on a NASA mission is quite the stretch for a D&D type MMO.
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Do you aware that DnD has other dimensions/realities, travel to moons, planets, stars, spaceships and lasers?

Lets take Illithids - one of the most coveted npc races of DND:

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The 3.5 Edition D&D supplement Lords of Madness provides that the Illithid were a star-faring people who existed at the end of time. Facing annihilation, the Illithid traveled to the past, arriving roughly 2000 years before the present in any given D&D campaign.
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The people who invented the first space ships were brilliant. That doesn't mean anybody should actually want to use them 200 years later. Ideas are limited by means of execution. Everquest has amazing ideas that need to be completely reworked in their execution, in order for classic Everquest as it was envisioned to actually exist and continue to be relevant as things have evolved.
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:17 AM
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The 3.5 Edition D&D supplement Lords of Madness provides that the Illithid were a star-faring people who existed at the end of time. Facing annihilation, the Illithid traveled to the past, arriving roughly 2000 years before the present in any given D&D campaign.

Hows that for classical DnD fantasy? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
3.5 ain't classic. thac0 or gtfo
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:16 PM
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If you can't see how going from fighting dragons on middle-earth to warping to the moon to fight aliens is, in essence, the downfall of Everquest lore, I can't help you.
Barrier Peaks! One of the best old school D&D modules of all time. Spaceship, aliens, robots. 100% pure awesomeness. If you don't see it, you're beyond help.

Dammit... now I'm hungry for a froghemoth! That's behemoth frog... or is it frog behemoth...
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:50 PM
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I really loved Luclin and PoP. I understand and respect if Project 99 does not want to implement it into their classic server since classic is fun too, but on the other hand I think it would be a good idea maybe to set up a P99 team 2 or something to have a PoP server. I wonder what would happen if DayBreak decides to open a direct PoP server with no progression, how many people would go to it. I've lost a lot of trust in EQ live, and I doubt that would ever happen, but im pretty sure that would lower the P99 population (for better or for worse).
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:56 PM
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I really loved Luclin and PoP. I understand and respect if Project 99 does not want to implement it into their classic server since classic is fun too, but on the other hand I think it would be a good idea maybe to set up a P99 team 2 or something to have a PoP server. I wonder what would happen if DayBreak decides to open a direct PoP server with no progression, how many people would go to it. I've lost a lot of trust in EQ live, and I doubt that would ever happen, but im pretty sure that would lower the P99 population (for better or for worse).
If PoP is the sweet spot for you, I would suggest checking out TakProject (macemu).
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:50 PM
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Luclin is the best expansion, follow by Kunark, then Velious.
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:34 PM
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Luclin is the best expansion, follow by Kunark, then Velious.
PoP -> Luclin -> The Rest
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:53 PM
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PoP -> Luclin -> The Rest
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:18 PM
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I liked coordinating a raid to take on Rathe council.

You know the raid where you have to offtank 6 mobs that quad for 2k when tanks barely can reach 10k HP buffed. Also you had to mez 6 mobs at 5%, and keep them Mezzed for several hours. Then when all were ready you had to kill them within a 7 minute window. Keeping enchantees coordinated to lock down mobs and groups of Offtanks alive to deal with unmezables was a feat in an era when there wasn't much voice chat prevalent, and your raid was 60 people with about 10-15 boxes.

Suggesting PoP was an era when things were handed to you is laughable, especially at the raid level. PoP was far more challenging than any Content in Velious. Velious is all corner tank 1-2 AEs and maybe rampage and flurry, but that's it. It's extremely bland when you compare it to PoP.


PoP simply had better groupable content, better raid content, better tradeskills, some solid quests, awesome lord, and about the closest they ever got to balancing the PvE game at the group and raid levels.

A man can dream one day a server locked in PoP will exist with the attention to detail that P99 pays. Or SOE sells the EQMac client and code to someone who then hosts an Authentic PoP server with Classic UI restrictions, AC, Combat tables, everything. Mmm soo tasty
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:37 PM
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PoP simply had better groupable content, better raid content, better tradeskills, some solid quests, awesome lord, and about the closest they ever got to balancing the PvE game at the group and raid levels.
PoP sucked donkey balls for casual players. It was a shit sandwich smothered in shit gravy unless you were a dedicated raider. Most useless EQ expansion ever for the casual: "Here have some free shit handed to you with zero interesting gameplay attached, now go away except we want you to keep paying that subscription fee every month." Original+Kunark were immeasurably superior to PoP if you weren't drinking the EQ raider kool-aid.
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