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Old 09-05-2010, 08:55 PM
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Freedom fighters don't intentionally kill women and children. A spade is a spade. Terrorism is terrorism regardless of who is doing it.

Collateral damage isn't the same as intentional murdering of civilians. (Blah blah, dead is dead, before you even bleat it. The intention defines it in this discussion.)
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:02 PM
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the IRA and pIRA are secular organizations.
IRA has been broken and reformed into several paramilitary groups, some of which target protestant places of gathering such as the following event:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...251382252.html

So even if their aims aren't totally religious in nature (as in converting non-believers) they have in the past and still do to this day target protestant organizations within Northern Ireland mostly due to the affiliations with the British church.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:19 PM
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That all has nothing to do with what I said, but I get your point.

You're still ignoring the fact that every single one of those listed are criminals, whereas what is done in my link especially, is lawful in these places.

It is a very simple statement that doesn't need to be countered with: "BUT BUT BUT LOOK AT WHAT THEEEEEEEEY DO TOO"

Lawful != Illegal
You're missing the point that the reason these things are "lawful" is because those extremists groups have seated power. On the norm it' usually not democratic but either by coup or election fraud, so anyone of those terrorist groups I listed has the potential to gain political power and or influence if situations bare in their favor.

So you really can't complain that these atrocities are the norm and they're "ok" because in this case a bullet goes much further than a ballot and when you're living in an impoverished politically distraught nation such as Afghanistan it makes it a hot bed for all sorts of fucked up ideologies and paramilitary groups.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:24 PM
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You're missing the point that the reason these things are "lawful" is because those extremists groups have seated power. On the norm it' usually not democratic but either by coup or election fraud, so anyone of those terrorist groups I listed has the potential to gain political power and or influence if situations bare in their favor.

So you really can't complain that these atrocities are the norm and they're "ok" because in this case a bullet goes much further than a ballot and when you're living in an impoverished politically distraught nation such as Afghanistan it makes it a hot bed for all sorts of fucked up ideologies and paramilitary groups.
You're reinforcing my point...
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:24 PM
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Freedom fighters don't intentionally kill women and children.
It's usually not the third party regarding a group as a "freedom fighter" labels such as that tend to be self-inclusive. To the people getting blown up as collateral, or being tortured in the name of this groups ideological sociopathy they simply are terrorists, but to the group committing these atrocities narcissism overrides logic and every act is considered good sake; due to the fact the people rallying against them would be considered enemies and or detrimental to their cause, again a narcissistic trait.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:30 PM
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Just replace the word "muslim" with "african" and Harrison's argument still holds. Most African states have weak, sometimes backward legal systems, but from that you wouldn't draw any inferences like "well that proves Africans are bad people because they enshrine fucked up things in law"
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:31 PM
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Just replace the word "muslim" with "african" and Harrison's argument still holds. Most African states have weak, sometimes backward legal systems, but from that you wouldn't draw any inferences like "well that proves Africans are bad people because they enshrine fucked up things in law"
Bunch of AIDS infested baby raping, hyena taming, diamond jewing, baboon looking faggots the bunch of em!
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Did you have to use the word "faggots"? Come on now, that's just vulgar.
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Bunch of AIDS infested baby raping, hyena taming, diamond jewing, baboon looking faggots the bunch of em!
Quit talking shit about American white people pls.
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Quit talking shit about American white people pls.
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