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Old 08-21-2010, 03:28 PM
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wow. haha

OH BOY! where do we start? better yet, in which eq emu server should we start this discussion? I know of at least a couple servers where the entire server populations would disagree with your statement. I hope for your sake you're one of the new ones, because if you're not there are quite a few skeletons in a certain closet that have been kept from you.
I've seen a few threads of people talking about it, but I don't know of any exploits/drama in regards to the guild. Either way, I don't care! I can only speak for the time I have spent guilded with them on this server. Pretty much everyone that has applied since I have been raiding with the guild has come to the guild because they don't want to get involved in the DA/IB drama.

It's also suggested that we don't post in R&F because nothing good becomes of it; a stance found in almost every high end raiding guild i've played with to stay away from forums because of drama.

Instead of trying to cling on to some screenshots that people keep posting on a new account (with no actual information behind it), try to post something drama related that WI has been involved in in the past month.

We camped Inny for 4+ days, but we fucked up and a guild took it. Did we need a 25 page thread in R&F because of it? Nope. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:17 PM
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This thread is a perfect example of why WI exists. Anyone who hates drama, feel free to come enjoy the game with us. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
WI has been nothing but drama since they started. Nice try, tho.
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:41 PM
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This thread is a perfect example of why WI exists. Anyone who hates drama, feel free to come enjoy the game with us. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
ROFLMFAO!!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I had a lot of laughs on this thread but this one caught me by surprise. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


Back on topic. If what the OP wrote actually happened, then it does indeed break the new raid rules.

There is absolutely no reason why a GM should not be able to find out who damaged or aggroed Djorn first. It's no different than looking up transaction histories when looking for dupers.
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:49 PM
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I think the issue is where the Gms actually come into play.

In an instance such as this, it would be possible to see that the HT hit before the monk flying kicked or w/e, but if ultimately the burden of proof falls on the players and there isn't sufficient evidence to back their claim then the issue essentially goes down the toilet.

On one side, I don't think the GMs should get involved with these things week in and week out. It draws them away from kunark and to be frank I don't think anyone here wants that. I'm sure they've got quite enough on their plate, and babysitting is the last thing on their minds. On the other hand, the rules are such that they invite controversy like this, in all honesty I'm surprised it took this long for something like this to have happened :P I don't think guilds want to have fraps running 24/7 just feel assured that poop-tornadoes such as this don't start brewing.

I think all guilds should realize that cases like this will happen, but I also think there should be ways of settling this with minimal GM involvement. Somthing that would require a simple ctrl+f in a log to find the culprit.
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:58 PM
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Old 08-21-2010, 02:05 PM
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24 pages, 22 of them dedicated to flaming uaellean, and now it looks like the next 20 of them will be devoted to flaming WI for that comment.....


how did DA and IB get ignored in this thread that was primarily only ABOUT them :/? i personally am still curious as to who ks'd who here! screenshot please [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-21-2010, 02:55 PM
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ugh.. damn you no edit button!

must have hit that + sign sometime late last night
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:05 PM
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Holy shit, thats the best thread ever. Thanks for the laughs hasbin and G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I Speak german too, so im obviously Cyrius + a Nazi yay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You too are so retarded omg. I really thought hasbinbad has a bit of a brain from his previous posts, obviusly i was wrong....
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:10 PM
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Holy shit, thats the best thread ever. Thanks for the laughs hasbin and G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I Speak german too, so im obviously Cyrius + a Nazi yay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You too are so retarded omg. I really thought hasbinbad has a bit of a brain from his previous posts, obviusly i was wrong....
Holy shit a Remedy member coming in to defend their corrupt guild leader

WHO WOULDA THUNK IT?
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:14 PM
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sorry but this is so dumb i had to say something. wtf lets you think cyrius and uuaellaen are the same person?

Oh wait...they both from germany..good work sherlock holmes

But again, thx for the laughs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS: Uuaellaen hates me because my mother is jewish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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