quick pvp video from dreadlands earlier

[Edgat]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people did. When it was cool and exciting. 14 years ago.

14 years ago Cwall was 2 years old so not possible for him then

Also again Nihilum won the fight in DL when we had 30 left there and you had nothing except 2 out of range people scouting the zone we won zone control

Your remaining 20 or so had fled to BW to try to regroup once we had zone control we are by the rules able to rez and do whatever we want because we won.

Our people that hadn't died then engaged your people in BW. We had many people running fraps & streaming and caught many red dawn breaking their guild charter & PnP by bind rushing / rezing in and returning to the fight even after we won zone control.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what you post, and what you posted earlier, and what you posted even earlier rarely line up. give it a rest you guys cheated. did RD break some rules? i'm sure there are some that did, but that was after the fact. everyone that broke the rules should get an error message when they log in for a vacation. that actually aids nihilum as you guys have 4-5 chars each and most RD members are non 60s with crap gear ATM.

I admitted I was dead and did not personally see any RD members breaking the rules. I was still alive when some people that had died were back fighting as it was already brought up in TS/chat.

Sorry man, I just don't think you should be posting things like "you did break the rules, there is no denying that" when you self-admittedly weren't around for the majority of the fight and are basing a lot of it on hearsay from TS.

The simple fact of the matter is that it is nearly impossible for both sides not to break the rules in a 120 person PVP encounter. I was in our TS and 90% of the discussion was about who can and can't be killed. I can assure you that there was not a single person intentionally breaking LNS rules. In fact Nizzar called for SoWing/healing and rezzing RD dead near the end after HB had thrown in the towel.

Just for one moment stop trying to look at this as a way to get Nihilum members banned and start looking at it objectively. Can you honestly say that you think the PNP rules being applied during the fight added to the enjoyment of the battle? Absolutely nothing changes from a griefing standpoint if LNS is granted after the engagement is over instead of mid fight. Everyone gets their corpses, nobody gets CC'd, and most importantly the TS on both sides isn't 90% discussion on who you can even target.

The fact that you're on here trying to lawyer Nihilum bans instead of discussing the actual PVP is proof enough for me what your strategy is. You're even willing to throw your own guildmates under the bus as a sacrifice if it means getting a few of our accounts banned. If you guys truly care about the server as much as you claim then you'd start pushing (as should we) for a ruleset that prevents griefing without undermining the spirit of a PVP server.

However, I fully expect this to fall on deaf ears as every other post on the subject I've made has. The banlust is insatiable right now.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry man, I just don't think you should be posting things like "you did break the rules, there is no denying that" when you self-admittedly weren't around for the majority of the fight and are basing a lot of it on hearsay from TS.

The simple fact of the matter is that it is nearly impossible for both sides not to break the rules in a 120 person PVP encounter. I was in our TS and 90% of the discussion was about who can and can't be killed. I can assure you that there was not a single person intentionally breaking LNS rules. In fact Nizzar called for SoWing/healing and rezzing RD dead near the end after HB had thrown in the towel.

Just for one moment stop trying to look at this as a way to get Nihilum members banned and start looking at it objectively. Can you honestly say that you think the PNP rules being applied during the fight added to the enjoyment of the battle? Absolutely nothing changes from a griefing standpoint if LNS is granted after the engagement is over instead of mid fight. Everyone gets their corpses, nobody gets CC'd, and most importantly the TS on both sides isn't 90% discussion on who you can even target.

The fact that you're on here trying to lawyer Nihilum bans instead of discussing the actual PVP is proof enough for me what your strategy is. You're even willing to throw your own guildmates under the bus as a sacrifice if it means getting a few of our accounts banned. If you guys truly care about the server as much as you claim then you'd start pushing (as should we) for a ruleset that prevents griefing without undermining the spirit of a PVP server.

However, I fully expect this to fall on deaf ears as every other post on the subject I've made has. The banlust is insatiable right now.

you guys rezzed and had people re-enter the fight. that's your actions/choices. i've already said i think the banning is dumb with so many grey areas, but that isn't one of them.

if you die in pvp you should not re-enter the zone until the pvp is over, PERIOD! would have solved all the potential arguments yesterday imo.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dango = k9quaint the bind rushing pnp lns violating cry baby.

Also logs show him in ooc tears over ajax violating LnS even tho ajax never died. These guys are all idiots.

Retti forumquesting about LnS policies while Tune throws him under the bus as an account stripping whore : )

[Mac Dretti]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Retti forumquesting about LnS policies while Tune throws him under the bus as an account stripping whore : )

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[Kinamara]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you will stand by your word that

Nothxu, outkast, zarah, ghost, rashore, trusken, shipit, kinamara, muhh, nerfette, dongshow, ederick, dereadtoker, samuell, qazzaz

that all died in the first few minutes never entered the fight again?

Going back and forth on what every action each player did, such a Shipit, is a joke in itself. The only people with proper logs to do something as tedious as this are the GMs. Seeing as though the YT was much in favor of RD in the beginning and not towards the end is a clue though.

I will gladly confirm that I was ressed after the fight was over and all I did at that point was to res your dead.

Confirmed by my log I ressed your guildleader: 1/5/2014 4:38:01 PM

Yet another spin busted.

There's the "Play Nice" part of PNP for you, too bad you're so full of shit on the forums that I'm gonna have to reconsider another time.

[Holey]

Originally Posted by Snufz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude you're arguing with Elderan.

The guy's brian is freid.

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[Mac Dretti]

I can also confirm that I rezzed Topdawg <Red Dawn>, Miley<Red Dawn> , and Badger <Azrael> so they could scoot more quickly as I am complying with PnP.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kinamara [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will gladly confirm that I was ressed after the fight was over and all I did at that point was to res your dead.

Confirmed by my log I ressed your guildleader: 1/5/2014 4:38:01 PM

Yet another spin busted.

There's the "Play Nice" part of PNP for you, too bad you're so full of shit on the forums that I'm gonna have to reconsider another time.

I never said every player did it so there is no spin. I commend you on being one of the bigger persons and helping with a rez after the fight though.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can also confirm that I rezzed Topdawg <Red Dawn>, Miley<Red Dawn> , and Badger <Azrael> so they could scoot more quickly as I am complying with PnP.

I am glad some of the good behavior of RD has rubbed off on you. May you continue to do so and maybe one day you will be fully cleansed and forgiven for all your sins.