Lol, this isn't going to change anything.

[Llodd]

At the moment it's all just a small step forward, albeit in the right direction.

time to slow down and let the dust settle.

Patience

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At the moment it's all just a small step forward, albeit in the right direction.

time to slow down and let the dust settle.

Patience

You have 1 and a half weeks to get an agreement in place and give it to the staff. A UN resolution between the guilds. If the tmo bluster is to be believed.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have 1 and a half weeks to get an agreement in place and give it to the staff. A UN resolution between the guilds. If the tmo bluster is to be believed.

better get my jimmies in place

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[Lammy]

FTE sniping wouldn't be an issue if raid forces waited to engage strategically rather than just flailing themselves at targets hoping to beat a readied raid force. My stance has always been this through the recent shit shows.... If you feel TMO enagages early and grabs FTE, let them wipe so you can do a clean engage. Who are you to judge if TMO was ready to engage or not? You don't know what our strategy is in vent. But whether they wipe or not will give you a definitive answer.

/Loraen liberal hate on

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/Loraen liberal hate on

At least Alarti argues the actual substance of things sometimes.

Maybe a second time will sledgehammer this idea through your skull: your guild is only in the position it is in owing to huge variance, and this is not classic. TR, TMO, FE/IB, and in the future any guilds willing to invest the time tracking are the ones receiving vastly more raid mobs than they would in a truly classic world. ergo, you are the ones receiving the handouts. It's exactly like the Great Depression when Roosevelt hired people to dig ditches and other people to fill them in: Rogean created a huge amount of unnecessary work and then rewarded the people that toed his line.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least Alarti argues the actual substance of things sometimes.

Maybe a second time will sledgehammer this idea through your skull: your guild is only in the position it is in owing to huge variance, and this is not classic. TR, TMO, FE/IB, and in the future any guilds willing to invest the time tracking are the ones receiving vastly more raid mobs than they would in a truly classic world. ergo, you are the ones receiving the handouts. It's exactly like the Great Depression when Roosevelt hired people to dig ditches and other people to fill them in: Rogean created a huge amount of unnecessary work and then rewarded the people that toed his line.

Ehhh this isnt correct. While I agree we structured our guild around variance.... if no variance ever existed it is impossible to predict how the raid scene would have turned out.
Without variance we would have structures ourselves differently, as would competition and new problems would exist. So basically you should put that sledge down and start fine-tuning your thoughts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ehhh this isnt correct. While I agree we structured our guild around variance.... if no variance ever existed it is impossible to predict how the raid scene would have turned out.
Without variance we would have structures ourselves differently, as would competition and new problems would exist. So basically you should put that sledge down and start fine-tuning your thoughts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti, do you believe in global warming?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ehhh this isnt correct. While I agree we structured our guild around variance.... if no variance ever existed it is impossible to predict how the raid scene would have turned out.
Without variance we would have structures ourselves differently, as would competition and new problems would exist. So basically you should put that sledge down and start fine-tuning your thoughts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No variance = less toon overhead + more autofire keyboards

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least Alarti argues the actual substance of things sometimes.

My argument is taking into consideration how things are, not how you want them to be. I 100% comprehend and 50% agree with what you're saying.

[Nirgon]

Thanks for not answering my question personally.

First in force = poop sock rules for everything is actually the worst possible rule. Who had 20 people sitting there for 3 days straight? That's a good idea to you!?

You don't get it if you think that is good.

You also didn't answer my question. You waited for someone else to answer it in a way you liked, then quoted it.

Unfortunately and as suspected, another clueless bandwagoneer and probably the worst of them. Things will never get better with people like you arguing against Alarti and company.