"Porting for donations"...a little selfish?

[crkhobbit]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now I realize it's common courtesy to tip someone for buffs, revives, and ports. I always tip when I ask for any of these services (what I can afford, anyway), but the point is that it's technically a free service from most people and clients don't HAVE to tip if they don't want to. It's extremely petty and tacky, but they don't have to.

But I've run into a few people now that say things like "Porting for donations, at least 25pp" or "Will buff for tips." which gives the impression that they won't port you or buff you unless you give them a donation, turning a complimentary service into a paid one. I've even seen a few cases where newbies have been turned down for buffs or ports after asking politely for one, and I get the feeling it was because the people they were asking knew that they were broke and likely wouldn't have money for a donation.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for tipping someone who spends their time and mana to help you out, I always tip when I can, but when did donations turn into a MANDATORY thing? When did people start acting like "no donation? no port."?

I've never played a druid or a wizard that was high enough level to port. I played a cleric in live, but never once buffed for a tip. I also never just sat around buffing people for no reason.

That being said, they have a service they can offer that people are willing to pay for. They choose to spend their time in the interest of offering that service with the explicit goal of making money. And they have the right to do so because they're not doing anything that hurts anyone and they don't owe anyone a thing. I spend my time how I choose and they can spend theirs how they choose.

No one owes you a goddamn thing. If you don't want to pay for a port, then you should "/ooc looking for a port for free because I am entitled and it doesn't cost you anything to port me".

This thread is fucking dumb.

[xexbis0]

GTFO with this nonsense and quit acting like you're time is more valuable than any porter that might go out of their way to port you. You want them to sit around and burn their mana and time for free? It is not "1 click". It's "1 click" and at least a minute of medding to get that mana back + the mana to gate back. 375 mana under level 40 is a lot of mana. Quit being a cheapskate. I donate at least 75p+whatever gold is on me for ports.

To the porters, easiest way to get around people that want free ports? Only port people that say "WTB Port" or "Donating for port".

[Jingleson]

Originally Posted by xexbis0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GTFO with this nonsense and quit acting like you're time is more valuable than any porter that might go out of their way to port you. You want them to sit around and burn their mana and time for free? It is not "1 click". It's "1 click" and at least a minute of medding to get that mana back + the mana to gate back. 375 mana under level 40 is a lot of mana. Quit being a cheapskate. I donate at least 75p+whatever gold is on me for ports.

To the porters, easiest way to get around people that want free ports? Only port people that say "WTB Port" or "Donating for port".

That's the ultimate indication of greed, someone who thinks they're entitled to charge money for their MANA. All they have to do is sit on their ass for 30 seconds and boom, mana back courtesy of Meditation. And it's not THEIR mana, it's the GAMES mana.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the ultimate indication of greed, someone who thinks they're entitled to charge money for their MANA. All they have to do is sit on their ass for 30 seconds and boom, mana back courtesy of Meditation. And it's not THEIR mana, it's the GAMES mana.

getting too reckless

[cs616]

Originally Posted by Jingleson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the ultimate indication of greed, someone who thinks they're entitled to charge money for their MANA. All they have to do is sit on their ass for 30 seconds and boom, mana back courtesy of Meditation. And it's not THEIR mana, it's the GAMES mana.

Yea, you're ridiculous. What porters should be charging for is not mana or the port or any of that stuff, but the their time + the time they save you. It isn't like the person logs on and off to only port you, they take time out of their day to sit around advertising their service, so each port isn't just 30 seconds, it is a few minutes finding someone who wants a port, a few minutes waiting for that person to get there, and then a few minutes medding back up. On top of the time they are investing, they're also saving you likely upwards of 30 minutes of travel time. At a minimum that should justify 50pp, porters accepting anything below 50pp is charity imo.

Ports are a convenience. The only reason they are the primary mode of long distance travel in this game is because we have so many people willing to sell their time porting the rest of us around. If you don't like the way they advertise their services, don't use them, but don't act like you're entitled to a single thing from any other player - because you aren't.

Calling someone who wants to be compensated for their time greedy is ridiculous, you are ridiculous, and you should feel bad about yourself.

[fadetree]

mmmmm the anger is strong


/popcorn

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I personally see nothing wrong with someone who ports me asking for a little shellfish. A strange request, aye, but nothing to get angry about.

[Spitty]

Me, I'd shell out a few clams. Otterwise, it takes you ten times as long to get anywhere.

[bomaroast]

Calling it a donation is correct because the price is not specified. So you may give whatever you are capable of or feel is appropriate. I agree, this thread is retarded. Shit.. oh.. shit....

[Spitty]

Yeah, should have waited another two or three pages for the troll powerup bar to reset.