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Old 07-21-2013, 12:39 PM
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:29 PM
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Explain the stupid and uneducated part ele? The only thing ever backing your opinions is "Its classic". Seems like an opinion to me.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:48 PM
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Yeah really Ellie I just copied the same notions that got Ivandyrs nerfed.
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Explain the stupid and uneducated part ele? The only thing ever backing your opinions is "Its classic". Seems like an opinion to me.
Prove it.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:00 PM
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:05 PM
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The only thing ever backing your opinions is "Its classic".
That's actually a pretty solid opinion though. Suppose we decide that 5 charges of instant complete heal is pretty ridiculously overpowered (it is). Well, what about:
  • Hybrid XP penalties
  • Donals BP
  • Puppet strings
  • WC caps
  • Ridiculously low mana cost of enchanter spells
  • Shamans getting a damage clicky while Wizards don't
  • Iksar Planar Armor
  • Dumb cockblocking key quests
  • The Velious-tuned Magician epic pet roflstomping Kunark
  • So many classes being worthless on the raid scene
  • Not even close to enough content for the number of high-level players we have.

etc etc. If I were running the server, I would try and make a few of these changes. Then I'd add a few high-level zones from modern xpacs (like Gates of Discord) after retuning their difficulty and items to match Kunark. I'd borrow scripts from later xpacs to add to the boss strategy a little, like making them spawn guardians or have their abilities change or otherwise make raiding a little bit more challenging than 'put on resist gear and attack'.

But the sign on the door says Classic Everquest, not LoraenQuest or AlartiQuest or (god forbid) TigglesQuest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:14 PM
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But the sign on the door says Classic Everquest, not LoraenQuest or AlartiQuest or (god forbid) TigglesQuest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:23 PM
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That's actually a pretty solid opinion though. Suppose we decide that 5 charges of instant complete heal is pretty ridiculously overpowered (it is). Well, what about:
  • Hybrid XP penalties
  • Donals BP
  • Puppet strings
  • WC caps
  • Ridiculously low mana cost of enchanter spells
  • Shamans getting a damage clicky while Wizards don't
  • Iksar Planar Armor
  • Dumb cockblocking key quests
  • The Velious-tuned Magician epic pet roflstomping Kunark
  • So many classes being worthless on the raid scene
  • Not even close to enough content for the number of high-level players we have.

etc etc. If I were running the server, I would try and make a few of these changes. Then I'd add a few high-level zones from modern xpacs (like Gates of Discord) after retuning their difficulty and items to match Kunark. I'd borrow scripts from later xpacs to add to the boss strategy a little, like making them spawn guardians or have their abilities change or otherwise make raiding a little bit more challenging than 'put on resist gear and attack'.

But the sign on the door says Classic Everquest, not LoraenQuest or AlartiQuest or (god forbid) TigglesQuest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Making one change is definitely a slippery slope. But there was a reasons some of these changes were made.(some good, some bad).

The sensible thing would be to make this as classic as possible. Since it is impossible to be a fully classic emulation. (Modern PC's, Hoop nerf, VP dragons Quadding ((Any monster quadding)), Foreknowledge of the game)
Likely the single most game breaking mechanic I listed is the foreknowledge one... and there really isn't much you can do about that.

You need to think about "the vision"(tm). I think I can say with great certainty that "the vision" did not include healing for raid bosses with a soulfire.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:25 PM
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I think I can say with great certainty that "the vision" did not include healing for raid bosses with a soulfire.
The vision also didn't include using feign death to split mobs...so that's about how useful that argument is.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:18 PM
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You need to think about "the vision"(tm). I think I can say with great certainty that "the vision" did not include healing for raid bosses with a soulfire.
Hey you'll get no argument from me: it's obvious that 5 charges of instant complete heal is ridiculous. But if you are going to play the vision card, then you are arguing that a whole bunch of nerfs/fixes should come early. Pretty much everything on my list was eventually fixed:
  • The hybrid XP penalty was removed in velious
  • The Donal's BP was nerfed in Velious
  • I believe the recharge bug was eventually fixed, nerfing strings/wc caps
  • Iksars finally got a set of planar armor and could wear Velious shit
  • The keys for the Kunark dungeons were swapped for a level cap

And most of these would have a much larger effect than a few soulfire charges here and there.
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