Camping Raid Mobs... gone on long enough ?!

[kariden]

If you play on other servers where boxing is allowed and where MQ2 is allowed then watch people here its not hard to spot whos doing what.

[eqholmes]

On my server (luclin) I was a cleric and what we decided to do as a server was make a cleric epic wait list. If I remember right after naggy was down it was a 4-7 day window for the mob to pop. First the cleric had to post evidence that they were on the step ready to kill the dragon. (Posting a SS of your pearl with a timestamp and such) I was in the top guild and at any point we could have been dicks and took it, but I waited in line 3 months for my turn. Why can’t we do this for such things as the cleric epic mob?

PS. The cleric that was up had to sit at the camp 24hours until it popped. This is a fair and easy way to handle this matter and shouldn’t be an issue…

Editing this part..... On a side note when epics are released we must get rid of mob varience, this is going to be an issue with things like NAGGY and such that could spawn in the window when you want to kill the cleric epic guy. I would be so pissed to wait 5 days at the spawn to have naggy pop on me 2 days earlier than he should and then I would have to wait another week camping 24 hours a day.

[Branaddar]

Mob variance (normally) prevents guilds from monopolizing a spawn. Though with the rules in place, it is somewhat pointless, as a guild is just going to sit there with 15 people waiting anyway.

[eqholmes]

Oh I fully agree branaddar, but I'm saying that its going to cause some nasty issues when epics are out. The variance could cause someone camping the cleric epic weeks of their time on this one spawn when naggy keeps spawning early in the variance and the cleric epic guy spawns late. See the point I'm trying to make clear? Maybe just take off the variance on a few mobs that this involes? Since its not like every god/dragon is the key to a spawn for the epic.

edit* man I suck at spelling

[Skope]

Taking off variance on the few mobs that it involves only presents that same mob with the issues of having variance off : Too "Oneguildmensional" , still doesn't resolve the camping/lockdown issue (only exacerbates it if you think about it), and can cause even more problems between guilds. I would agree with you, though, if it were in rotation. Thus when it dies you let the other guild know and therefore nobody would waste their time, essentially just get in, grab it and get out.

[guineapig]

Well Epic quests are still a long ways away, like 7-9 months into Kunark. So if we theorize that Kunark will be released around October then this issue is still a LONG way off the radar.

That being said, I agree that raiding on P99 has gotten pretty unhealthy.

[Phallax]

Rotations could work on normal servers where theres only 2-3 maybe 4 raiding guilds. As it is now theres really only 4 raiding guilds 2 of which stand out the most. By the time Velious rolls around will see alot more raiding guilds as people are going to max out all their grouping gear and seek to enjoy the raiding aspect of the game, and with a growing community it makes it even more viable to see more raiders.

Say a few months after Velious is released we now have 6-7 raiding guilds able of NTOV, can you imagine a rotation between 6-7 guilds? I know I wouldnt want to wait no 6-7 weeks just to go clear out some dragons in NToV or 6-7 weeks for my shot at Tunare.

I do agree there should be a better system. Hopefully we can keep a low number of guilds able to raid so a rotation could be implemented but Im not seeing its possible.

[eqholmes]

True that Skope, how long into kunark did they make it were if you were above 52 naggy/vox would just spit you out of the zone? Was it not till VOS came about or about the end of kunark? Man my memory blows! At that point the lockdown of the top guilds on those camps wouldn’t matter since they most likely wouldn’t all have characters sitting around being level 50ish to just kill those mobs. (Even though I leveled 2 characters to 50 so far just so that I can leave one at that level to kill them  ) rather funny when your 60 cleric is camping there and when naggy spawns and kicks you to zone hehe

[Jify]

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I'm like 90% convinced that a lot of two top raiding guilds are 2 boxing, whether it's with everyone's knowledge or not, but I honestly don't think anyone can really sit in a zone for days on end and be there the whole time without tearing at their eyes.

Lol.

Yup, we all two box. Every single one of us. Because the GMs would never think of checking for that, we are all just that sneaky!

Right.

The truth is, we /petition and report two boxers just like the rest of you. We are normal people and we follow rules, likely with more precision then the common player because we are constantly attacked when anything goes bad. Sure some of us have more time than the average player, more experience, more connections, etc. But we aren't all super hackers or "basement nerds without a life". The "blame the top guilds" routine is getting old, all we do is play to the best of our ability, within the rule sets given to us.

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[Reiker]

It's funny reading this shit from people just starting here.

Back in Nov-Oct one guild was dominating all the raid content. Another guild who wasn't able to mobilize fast enough upon spawns started complaining and eventually just started camping mobs for hours at a time. First guild was like "fuck that" and decided to just kill shit regardless of another guild camping for 18 hours. GMs were like "lol no" and enforced a rotation on this server. The raid rotation is probably the #1 gayest thing to ever happen to P99, I heard Liberace even rolled up a toon. So GMs finally remove the rotation rules, camping occurs again, more bitching, etc.

Really funny to watch the cycle, at least.