Class selection guide draft - Page 2

falkun · #1 01-24-2013, 04:37 PM

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no harmony.

/melody?

Bards can do anything*++.

* Requires 3 second delay
++ Only lasts 18 seconds.

Splorf22 · #2 01-24-2013, 04:37 PM

Made some mild tweaks to the epic difficulty based on Deajay's feedback.

I actually think there is a case that bards are easier than warriors; TMO is selling a full bard MQ practically for 300k while green dragon scales are 200k+ already by themselves.

Really I think the only important distinction is cleric/shaman/monk/rogue: easy, enchanter/paladin medium, everything else: be prepared to batphone/sock/fork over 300k+

falkun · #3 01-24-2013, 04:40 PM

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Really I think the only important distinction is cleric/shaman/monk/rogue: easy, everything else: hard.

I wouldn't go that far. Those epics are "easy" because they don't require any raid mobs. Then you have tiers based on how many, how difficult (PVE), and how contested (quasi-PVP) the raid content is. A case can be made for the bard epic being easier than some other epic because 2 of the drops are from multiple dragons and less-contested spawns and the one difficult spawn is a shorter 3-day timer, but then I realized it was the only epic that required 3 full-sized raid drops (I refuse to consider royals to be on the same tier as Naggy/Vox/Tal/Gore).

Splorf22 · #4 01-24-2013, 04:56 PM

I agree with you on the absolute difficulty of the camps DJ, but I think you are forgetting that about 5% of all bards make it to 55+ without having their wrists fall off.

Alarti: I kinda put shamans and enchanters in the same category; the buffs are critical but the classes are kinda boring to play on raids relative to groups.

falkun · #5 01-24-2013, 05:02 PM

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I agree with you on the absolute difficulty of the camps DJ, but I think you are forgetting that about 5% of all bards make it to 55+ without having their wrists fall off.

This is referring to epics? If so, how does level influence a bard's ability to obtain epic? If level is factored into it, Paladin epic is one of the most difficult epics because the final turn-in REQUIRES L46 (its located in PoFear). Even the bard epic can be MQed to a L1.

The MQ pricing set by TMO is arbitrary to "difficulty" of the mob and is only influenced by market economics. Warrior gear is inherently expensive due to the gear-dependent nature of the class you've already pointed out. For instance, when a warrior replaces his weapons with epics, he's probably replacing 50k-200k in gear (RMOY, BOTBDE). Any bard not replacing a Breath of Harmony (5-6k) with the epic is wrong. The warrior doesn't have to farm as much to replace his existing kit with epics.

Alarti0001 · #6 01-24-2013, 05:03 PM

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I agree with you on the absolute difficulty of the camps DJ, but I think you are forgetting that about 5% of all bards make it to 55+ without having their wrists fall off.

Alarti: I kinda put shamans and enchanters in the same category; the buffs are critical but the classes are kinda boring to play on raids relative to groups.

Ahh so its based on entertainment factor?

Is this a generalized guide or does it include velious etc?

Alarti0001 · #7 01-24-2013, 04:55 PM

Personally I think Shamans raid use is a little under-valued. Unresistable Malo, Torpor, Slow, Hp buffs, Dex/Str/Avatar, Group DR/PR would bump them up quite a bit higher than a 7 imo. PE for those shamans with the hammer.

Torpor and avatar alone save raids. Putting an Avatar on a geared rogue is mega dps.

falkun · #8 01-24-2013, 05:15 PM

I'll agree with the supply and demand, if that wasn't already clear from my "market economics" explanation.

rafaone · #9 01-24-2013, 05:24 PM

Good Job, now i realize druids not that good char lol

senna · #10 01-24-2013, 06:59 PM

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Good Job, now i realize druids not that good char lol

Depends on what your playstyle is.

I like to be able to travel all over, buff and heal, and also be able to solo like a monster and quad kite. I also think its tons of fun to go help some newbie out and make his day. I think the druid fits that ticket perfectly and I'm very happy with the class.

Its all about having fun, you can be the best raid char on the server but if you're not enjoying the character then why bother.