What does ATK do?

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does it bother casters?

I dunno, but it's SUPER entertaining. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Yinikren]

Without getting into (possibly unknown) math, str will increase your max damage while higher atk will increase your average damage. Think of dps as a bell curve.

[phobus]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno, but it's SUPER entertaining. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't see if a wolf is sitting or standing. So if I'm in wolf form I can't easily tell if I'm medding in third-person.

I figured it was the same for everyone using the classic wolf models?

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I played a rogue, everyone was nuts for STR. ATK was where it was at, though. True, STR adds to ATK at 1:1, but for whatever reason, it doesn't seem to be as potent as ATK from buffs like wolf form, garou, grim aura, avatar, etc. There weren't many worn +ATK items within my reach, but I made sure to get all that I could - and I believe it was worth the effort.

And this is because STR caps at 255, while ATK can be stacked ad infinitum. Then you realize how stupidly easy STR is to stack to cap, and ATK becomes the stat you are swapping STR gear out for. That and possibly resist gear. It only gets easier with Velious gear.

[koros]

What Yini said...

If you know any statistics, then it increases negative skew of the distributiion.

If you don't, it means a your average or expected value of a hit will increase, aka you do more damage than you would with lower atk.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And this is because STR caps at 255, while ATK can be stacked ad infinitum. Then you realize how stupidly easy STR is to stack to cap, and ATK becomes the stat you are swapping STR gear out for. That and possibly resist gear. It only gets easier with Velious gear.

I disagree. I was well under 255 STR at the time I am referring to (Kunark era, doing only some classic raid content). Many people claimed that ATK was ATK, wether it came from worn/buffed STR, or Avatar, or Vengeance II, or whatever. I don't believe that is true. The ATK rating you see go up when you add STR is a composite and the math is much more complicated than that.

Not saying that STR is meaningless - but the way it adds to your damage output is inferior to "pure" ATK rating mods.

[fadetree]

I recall ATK having 2 components as well, much like AC did, ie., there were mitigation and avoidance forms of AC. Direct ATK from items and spells supposedly was better than ATK from STR, foggy on why now though...its been too long. I bet a search on Steel Warriors or the safe house would turn up some discussions on it.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

str affects how much breath u have. dont try swimming after a rez

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Bamzal Sherbet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

str affects how much breath u have. dont try swimming after a rez

lol

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does it bother casters?

Because you can't tell if you are sitting down Medding. I hate it. Not counting the Barking crap.