Hate Raid

[cyryllis]

fear/sky is a terrible pick up raid, but plane of hate is totally doable with a few groups of random people as long as the port in goes well.

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fear/sky is a terrible pick up raid, but plane of hate is totally doable with a few groups of random people as long as the port in goes well.

Agreed. Just pick a day/time and advertise for pick-up raid. You'll need a strong (vocal) leader and lots of communication.

But go for it!!

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by FormerlyAMonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Too bad the community on this server is less willing to help others.

Totally not true. We like to help each other discover our weaknesses on a daily basis. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kope]

Originally Posted by FormerlyAMonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Too bad the community on this server is less willing to help others.

In all reality you can't actually believe that those pickup raids were put together under altruistic intentions. The individuals putting them together needed something from there too, so they were putting the raid together to get themselves the gear/raiding experience they needed.

[Picked]

Originally Posted by FormerlyAMonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The open raids I experienced on Maelin Starpyre were ANYTHING BUT "bands of failing misfits."

We killed numerous POP targets, including Agnarr, Terris, Tallon/Vallon and Saryn.

Pickup raids were a HUGE deal during POP and well-geared members of the larger guilds often participated to help with backflagging.

Too bad the community on this server is less willing to help others.

On Live my guild was not allowed to help on these raids. Not unless they were way beneath us. They gave our members lockouts, and made it hard to find targets up when we wanted to raid. Our guild/raid leader told us not to go on them even on alts, that we would do back flagging nights for our alts in due time.

That being said it doesn't change the fact that this is an MMO. Not a single player role playing game. Join a guild. Meet some new people, makes some friends, enjoy the ride together. I can guarantee that kill on Phara Dar or even Cazic Thule is much more enjoyable doing it with a bunch of people you have grouped with, raided with, helped gear, helped epic, and been through the hard times with. It's not nearly as satisfactory as jumping in a raid full of 50 people you don't know and zerging something to death.

This is just my opinion though. And only a suggestion. So take it for what it's worth. There are a lot of guilds out there looking for competent players who can become a part of their guild and have fun with them. Ones that don't require raid attendance.

[pasi]

Innoruuk had PUGs (scalraid) killing Fennin and everything below during PoP, Ikkinz Raids in GoD, etc. You'd be surprised how successful pugs can be with a geared tank or two, a puller who knows the zone, and 1-2 non-idiot clerics.

Anyhow, Hate and Fear shouldn't require more than a single group of 55+. I know we were doing it on VZTZ with 2 level 50 mages (minis included), granted pet aggro there was more like live than here. The benefit to more people is the getting loot at a non-dogshit rate (VZTZ had droppable planar so it was ok). Fears the same boat - you have shamans soloing the break in - a group of 55+ will be fine. These aren't raid zones.

Sky is a different story and the mobs that are worth it probably wouldn't even be up.

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Innoruuk had PUGs (scalraid) killing Fennin and everything below during PoP, Ikkinz Raids in GoD, etc. You'd be surprised how successful pugs can be with a geared tank or two, a puller who knows the zone, and 1-2 non-idiot clerics.

Anyhow, Hate and Fear shouldn't require more than a single group of 55+. I know we were doing it on VZTZ with 2 level 50 mages (minis included), granted pet aggro there was more like live than here. The benefit to more people is the getting loot at a non-dogshit rate (VZTZ had droppable planar so it was ok). Fears the same boat - you have shamans soloing the break in - a group of 55+ will be fine. These aren't raid zones.

Sky is a different story and the mobs that are worth it probably wouldn't even be up.

[Thulack]

Open raiding forces are still productive in EQ aslong as everyone knows their role and how to accomplish the goal as 1 unit.