Game Mechanics: Dragon charms? - Page 2

Dullah · #1 09-11-2012, 02:28 AM

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Those dragons are in game and people are only posting about it now? Or was this kept a secret by the guild that was farming them?

Big secret, huge fucking dragons in 4 zones. Fucking idiot.

Lazortag · #2 09-11-2012, 10:59 AM

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Big secret, huge fucking dragons in 4 zones. Fucking idiot.

4 zones eh? I don't know if that's a typo or if you really just can't count at a grade school level. Given your history I'd say the latter is more likely.

If they're killed immediately after spawning, and other guilds appeared not to know about them, and they clearly should not have been spawning at this point in the timeline, perhaps the appropriate post to be making is "gore/sev/tal shouldn't be spawning now", not, "can you please make these dragons easier for us even though we have no evidence to support anything we say". It makes me wonder if you guys intentionally didn't bug report it, but of course there's no precedent for that, right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p.s: this isn't the place to start a flamewar, so if you want to continue it, go elsewhere.

p.p.s: this link is relevant: http://www30.tok2.com/home/redbug/eq/diary/td2.html. The logs are consistent with dragon charm being a proc:

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Severilous claws YOU for 520 points of damage.
Severilous claws YOU for 520 points of damage.
You resist the Dragon Charm spell!!

(edited because I misunderstood someone's post)

BigSlip · #3 09-11-2012, 03:49 AM

reported for trollin bugs brew

Dullah · #4 09-11-2012, 06:10 AM

I made fun of him enough, you don't have to report him too.

Zereh · #5 09-11-2012, 01:35 PM

Some people need to get over themselves already. Do you think we kept the dragons well fed and hidden in the corner so other people wouldn't be able to "see" them? How many people have been in EJ since launch? in Skyfire? in TD? Not many have been in Seb, but Trak was up for days before we killed him.

It has been no secret that they were killed after finding them up ~ to cry foul now just shows how far removed you are from what happens on the server.

Ele · #6 09-11-2012, 01:53 PM

Interesting SS from Legacy of Steel (belated congrats Nizz on the Grey Suede Boots btw!).

Could be interpreted either way, but appears to lean towards a casted ability rather than a proc. It occurs immediately after Hoshkar gated, casted a spell, target resisted, then melee occurred, then AE, then death.

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-01-08

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Lazortag · #7 09-11-2012, 03:07 PM

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Interesting SS from Legacy of Steel (belated congrats Nizz on the Grey Suede Boots btw!).

Could be interpreted either way, but appears to lean towards a casted ability rather than a proc. It occurs immediately after Hoshkar gated, casted a spell, target resisted, then melee occurred, then AE, then death.

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-01-08

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In the logs I linked, there's no "Sev begins to cast a spell" message, and the charm resist occurs right after the player is meleed. Maybe it was different for the outdoor dragons than it was for the VP dragons? I really have no idea.

edit: actually, what probably happened is that the player ran away and was too far to see "Sev begins to cast a spell". Hence why they got summoned right after.

Nirgon · #8 09-12-2012, 04:37 PM

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Interesting SS from Legacy of Steel (belated congrats Nizz on the Grey Suede Boots btw!).

Could be interpreted either way, but appears to lean towards a casted ability rather than a proc. It occurs immediately after Hoshkar gated, casted a spell, target resisted, then melee occurred, then AE, then death.

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-01-08

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Ah notice this! Hoshkar is clawing and not slashing (he does carry a shissar sword in the kill, check link).

Told ya I knew that non humanoid mobs shouldnt "wield" their weapons!

AKA: A giant snake who will drop a fang should not pierce.

However, a ghoul lord with yak should show it, slash with it AND proc it.

=)

Ele · #9 09-12-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah notice this! Hoshkar is clawing and not slashing (he does carry a shissar sword in the kill, check link).

Told ya I knew that non humanoid mobs shouldnt "wield" their weapons!

AKA: A giant snake who will drop a fang should not pierce.

However, a ghoul lord with yak should show it, slash with it AND proc it.

=)

That would make him so much easier when he isn't procing double ranger rapiers while wearing 41% haste.

Nirgon · #10 09-12-2012, 06:42 PM

Yeah, now I remember haste effecting NPCs.

I'm sure I can't post a log of the frenzied ghoul with a belt and without, but on live there was a noticable difference.

That said, Hoshkar (and other non-humanoid types) should NOT quad if he has 2 weps OR proc them.

Hey look I contributed something that makes the game easier for once.