Can't Decide, Live or P99

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Etris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your thoughts? Please keep the flames to a minimum, this is EQ, not WoW.

I apologize for my thread-spamming, but I keep finding things to respond to and I'm blasted on prednisone and lortab!

I had to note the irony... you list your casual game needs and finish with "this is EQ, not WoW". Hehehehe!

Hey I know how you feel. I've had cold feet joining a guild because I really am a time-starved power gamer. I don't want to join a guild and not really pitch in due to time constraints.

But, as one of my other posts in the thread states, I can get a lot of satisfaction out of the journey. I, personally, also loved live trading. So there's that for me as well. I may be L52, but I'm not guilded and have some good trinkets! I always loved turning stuff I don't need into stuff I do.

[Daldaen]

http://thefacelessorder.com/

This guild on Live caught my eye actually.

They are a progression based guild on Test server. Test works as if you have a subscription, but is completely free. Downside being its down more often than normal servers and they can patch stuff on there that is broken.

You can get to level 50-60 really quick on live and join them if raiding is your thing.

If you are absolutely not a raider and prefer grouping, P99 for you IMO.

[Danyelle]

There's reasons to play both tbh (or rather, all 3. Even though it too is run by Sony, EQMac is basically a different game than Live AND P99). There's also no real reason you can't play all of them at once.

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Ultimately. Play the ones you think you'll like most, or play them all and remove the ones you find you dislike. And I agree, asking this community is a terrible idea. Most will pick P99 without an eyelash bat and will spew anti-modern propaganda. Just like asking the Live boards will always pick Sony's servers and spew anti-Classic/Emu propaganda. You'd be better off asking a completely neutral source...or better yet, just playing what you want (as previously stated).

[Caridry]

i had no problems leveling to 95 on both druid and bard on live within a few months (3) for both chars. Live is boring as hell, i hit max level, started to raid, and i was NEVER excited, it felt so dumbed down and bland.

I come here, and instantly make friends, have a great guild, the community (minus forums) is fantastic, and it just really is nostalgiac... i played 99-2005 on my druid, and it just seems so much more challenging and unforgiving (WHICH IS WHAT EQ WAS ALL ABOUT!) i mean FUCK there isnt even corpse runs anymore on live... jesus.

[Urbanzkopf]

also google Progression X if you are into live... they are on trakanon server and they as a whole guild only play up to 60 (currently 65 as the guild leader just opened up luclin) you're not allowed in zones no in your era etc etc. Sounds cool but I dont have the time to play here, there and do everything else irl.

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://thefacelessorder.com/

This guild on Live caught my eye actually.

They are a progression based guild on Test server. Test works as if you have a subscription, but is completely free. Downside being its down more often than normal servers and they can patch stuff on there that is broken.

You can get to level 50-60 really quick on live and join them if raiding is your thing.

If you are absolutely not a raider and prefer grouping, P99 for you IMO.

I talk to one of their officers frequently (Protocol). Almost joined but I already had three level 80s when he asked and was 90 before they started raiding. Didn't feel like rerolling. They actually do a damn good job though, Only downside is multiple level 95's farm old raid mobs for gear, epics/quests, flags, mounts, or simply to see if they can. Makes their competition even worse than you'd find with TMO over here. At least until GoD+ when raid mobs go instanced (and PoTime).

[Lagaidh]

So many common threads (not just forum threads; threads of thought) where players are going out of their way for a non-modern experience. EQMac, here, the progression guilds policing their own play.

I'm surprised that all of us combined isn't enough of a customer base to put up a couple Sony backed (and SUPPORTED) classic servers.

Meh. I guess it's not worth it when you can put out a mobile device puzzle game that catches on slightly and ends up netting the company multiples in value.

Thank goodness for emulation coders. I am a software engineer... and I simply bow down to emulator developers (hardware or otherwise). Shit like a NES emu blows my mind.

I can still write a damn good piece of business software =) Or does anybody need an IVR solution? Oprima el dos!

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So many common threads (not just forum threads; threads of thought) where players are going out of their way for a non-modern experience. EQMac, here, the progression guilds policing their own play.

I'm surprised that all of us combined isn't enough of a customer base to put up a couple Sony backed (and SUPPORTED) classic servers.

Meh. I guess it's not worth it when you can put out a mobile device puzzle game that catches on slightly and ends up netting the company multiples in value.

Thank goodness for emulation coders. I am a software engineer... and I simply bow down to emulator developers (hardware or otherwise). Shit like a NES emu blows my mind.

I can still write a damn good piece of business software =) Or does anybody need an IVR solution? Oprima el dos!

Well there's difference though. For example, TFO on Test may be doing classic content, but they use the modern UI (Extended Targeting etc etc) and all the modern combat/spell mechanics (not that they have a choice on that matter), still use PoK/GL as a hub, roll Vah Shir/Frogloks/Drakkin/Beastlords/Berserkers, use weapon ornaments and station cash illusions, and while they forbid mercs on raids they have no issue using them to level or with groups. They also have a few people with 95's that farm twink gear for the guild or kill Kunark+ raid mobs to lock down spawn timers for the guild when they reach that expac. While still Classic content, that is a COMPLETELY different style than P99 or EQMac, EQMac itself has Luclin and PoP.


The thing is, there's SO many different aspects of how people want Classic, some want it up to Velious, some to Luclin, some to PoP, some with no expacs, some with modern UI, some with stone Classic UI, some want bare bones ball-busting Classic. With so many renditions it's hard to lump them all together like that. It may originate from a common interest, but it's still vastly different. It may be possible to create these servers on EQEmu where it's cheaper and different devs can make their own versions (*cough* P99/EpicEmu*cough*) but it's hard for Sony to create servers to fulfil all those different aspects. It's easier for them to focus ahead and let Emu pick up the nostalgic slack (or EQMac, hence why they don't patch the PC 'hack')

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I talk to one of their officers frequently (Protocol). Almost joined but I already had three level 80s when he asked and was 90 before they started raiding. Didn't feel like rerolling. They actually do a damn good job though, Only downside is multiple level 95's farm old raid mobs for gear, epics/quests, flags, mounts, or simply to see if they can. Makes their competition even worse than you'd find with TMO over here. At least until GoD+ when raid mobs go instanced (and PoTime).

Firstly, you can easily /testcopy -> Bind yourself next to some level 95+ mobs and afk a few hours and you'll be down to level 60. Your main character on its native server will not be affected, as they are on test.

Secondly, the test server is VERY dead. Barely any level 95's plat there, let alone farm old raid mobs for stuff. The night they opened Kunark they found VS and Trakanon up for example.

Downside is no classic VP for them, so no phat VP loots. But that passes and is irrelevant when Velious and later expansions are released.

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Firstly, you can easily /testcopy -> Bind yourself next to some level 95+ mobs and afk a few hours and you'll be down to level 60. Your main character on its native server will not be affected, as they are on test.

Secondly, the test server is VERY dead. Barely any level 95's plat there, let alone farm old raid mobs for stuff. The night they opened Kunark they found VS and Trakanon up for example.

Downside is no classic VP for them, so no phat VP loots. But that passes and is irrelevant when Velious and later expansions are released.

About /testcopy. I know, but I don't have a toon to copy anymore lol. The 3 accounts I use now are brand new, as I lost my original account (that I used from Classic-Secrets of Faydwer) when I quit. Actually...I shouldn't say "lost"...more like "wiped all info then gave to a friend and that friend and I have since grown distant and she still has the account" lol. Either way I no longer have anything to copy, what I have on Test is what I have period now. lol

And as for the low pop, yeah Test is relatively dead, but at least since F2P you'd be surprised. It's somewhat active. (We won't pretend free Gold membership has nothing to do with that). Old mobs are downed quite a bit, Luclin ones mostly, due to the fast mounts. As well as a couple for epics (some people chose to do the 1.0 for the achievement/title rather than just do 1.5 prequest and skip it)