Something to cry about

[Galilao]

There is no guilds to join, there is no population to form new guilds.

FFA has failed.

[Dullah]

Now FFA ruleset is to blame. If you weren't just trolling, you clowns could have gotten together by now and decided once and for all what really ails the server.

[SearyxTZ]

The only things I've ever pushed for are design considerations made for the lower population, and increased staff/dev interaction and moderation on the forums (for obvious reasons). I try to do this without disrespecting them too much because I do appreciate what they are providing here for free.

Not everyone is a selfish brat trying to get their way. Some are looking at the big picture with genuine concern (ie: what will make it most successful for the majority of potential players).

I never really personally cared about the exp rate in itself, for example. I did care that the lower level zones were completely empty (read: NOT classic) and that a huge number of players from TZ/VZTZ were quitting because they hated the exp grind coupled with the lack of player interaction. It's not really that complicated. Most people aren't going to play what was remembered as a highly socially interactive MMO on a server where you are forced to grind by yourself 99% of the time. Maybe the former necro players and the guys who were already 50 seven months ago are still enjoying it, but that's obviously a small number of players.

This isn't to excuse the trolls who shit all over the forums intentionally - just pointing out that there are valid points of feedback here.

[Kaahbal]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not really that complicated. People aren't going to play what was remembered as a highly socially interactive MMO on a server where you are forced to grind by yourself 99% of the time.

+1

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not everyone is a selfish brat trying to get their way. Some are looking at the big picture with genuine concern (ie: what will make it most successful for the majority of potential players).

If that was a crack at me, I AM looking at the big picture and whats best for the server. Its just that i dont think devs agree with me and core pop doesnt wanna let go of the major advantage they get over new fishes through xp loss in pvp.

I am kind of annoying but i know im right, Rallos was a blast cuz of the constant pvp. Here its not a blast if you aint got a big crew, youll get owned by twinks and zergs. On rallos it would happen as well, but you could do it all day and get better at it without losing xp. You could lose gear but everyone rolled around with no drop gear/naked or they were hardcore twinks that were fun to take down as a group of noob because of a nice piece of gear.

Badmartigan being an example of people running around naked pvping all day.

PVP xp loss only advantages zergs, so unless you come here with 10 of your buddies you can expect them to leave the server pronto.

Kunark will not help, youll see a pop increase for a while then it will drop again.

[Galilao]

Nothing is to "blame" just the facts are this is basically unplayable by most standards. I mean EQ is just not fun to me and I would guess many others with under 100 people playing not to mention under 20.

Whatever it would take to make the population go over 100 and mantain that population is what I would be in favor of. Trying some different things like teams (which is classic) couldn't possibly have a lower population then there is now.

Not really in favor of un-classic changes like increased exp or YT, but if it's whats required to mantain ANY kind of pop then I guess I would get behind it

[Tradesonred]

Its the pvp xp loss, stupid.

[SamwiseBanned]

you get what you put in and people get what they deserve

[Amuk]

Just a crazy time sink, I play for pvp and the amount of time required to level/camp shit to become pvp capable makes me want to puke to think of what I went through - back on a couple thousand pop server I could log on and pvp for hours but here it's just the same handful of people you're fighting over and over, the same shit talk - very little quality as far as dedicated pve leadership other than Nihilum. I hate to say it but without several guilds capable of doing raid mobs, it just creates a stagnant server - and I definately don't have the patience, time and probably the talent to suffer through the hand holding that would be required.

I remember TZ there was probably what, Kotwr/Sotg/Aotl/PDM/lex invictus/FOI and so many smaller but still decently active guilds that are too many to list, obviously some more dominant than others, but it made a fun variety/mix into the server and not just the same old shit.

People crying about the exp rate especially is because it's just too boring to grind to 50, let alone nearly impossible for several melee, RIP titanuk/Naikon - need more people at 50 and maybe would lead to more competent people at 50 who wouldn't be sucked in by the only raid capable guild on the server.

[Amuk]

Just to add, Holo had a lot of talented gamers who could easily do the task, but didn't have the time or desire to - and we were basically a captainless ship since the get go heh.