Rotation on Raid Targets ?

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Dawgrin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sounds like a pretty good idea to me...just need some Dev buy in on it
Of course I am not yet raiding on this server, but I do remember the post patch rush to raid targets and scouting (in kunark and velious). Which I always thought was a blast.

NO I HAVE TO LEAVE CLASS RASTER IS GOING TO BE UP!!!!

Okay, not a raid target, but still. That's how it was for me back in classic.

[karsten]

yeah no, i agree, simulated patch day would be a great addition to any sort of rotation we can come up with here -- we could coinflip for whoever got to start and switch between the major guilds by week, so like, week 1 first guild gets all targets then week 2 second guild etc, that way people could have fun AND have lives at the same time

[Desert]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah no, i agree, simulated patch day would be a great addition to any sort of rotation we can come up with here -- we could coinflip for whoever got to start and switch between the major guilds by week, so like, week 1 first guild gets all targets then week 2 second guild etc, that way people could have fun AND have lives at the same time

i'm not raiding, and i haven't raided since i quit live, but to me personally if I was and a rotation was imposed, and I had to sit on my ass for 2, 3...4 weeks? while other guilds down all of their targets I'd be finding a new server/game out of sheer boredom.

That said, how do you handle new guilds that want a piece but can't down their mob (trak for example)? 1 week timer starts and once 1 week elapses they forfeit all remaining mobs? Seems kind of wasteful to me when other guilds could be killing that stuff.

I've been on the giving and receiving end of competitive endgame raiding in eq, and that is what makes raiding in eq different than wow. Healthy competition is good.

[CPTMULLER]

Originally Posted by Desert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm not raiding, and i haven't raided since i quit live, but to me personally if I was and a rotation was imposed, and I had to sit on my ass for 2, 3...4 weeks? while other guilds down all of their targets I'd be finding a new server/game out of sheer boredom.

That said, how do you handle new guilds that want a piece but can't down their mob (trak for example)? 1 week timer starts and once 1 week elapses they forfeit all remaining mobs? Seems kind of wasteful to me when other guilds could be killing that stuff.

I've been on the giving and receiving end of competitive endgame raiding in eq, and that is what makes raiding in eq different than wow. Healthy competition is good.

until you've experienced the end game here, don't try to talk about it... it's something you have to see for yourself

[Bruman]

I think a single "this week all guilds get all targets" would end up not being enjoyed, just because one week you're going to be raiding tons, then doing nothing for a couple of months.

A "roll for target" to start the rotation sounds more interesting to me, so every guild gets a chance at a target. If it's progression for your guild, get a few attempts in, then move out of the way for the next guild. Just be courteous. If there are more guilds than targets, then rotate the "do nothing this week" slots as well.

Or hey, it's a private server, put them on 30 minute spawn cycles. PROBLEM SOLVED.

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[CPTMULLER]

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a single "this week all guilds get all targets" would end up not being enjoyed, just because one week you're going to be raiding tons, then doing nothing for a couple of months.

A "roll for target" to start the rotation sounds more interesting to me, so every guild gets a chance at a target. If it's progression for your guild, get a few attempts in, then move out of the way for the next guild. Just be courteous. If there are more guilds than targets, then rotate the "do nothing this week" slots as well.

Or hey, it's a private server, put them on 30 minute spawn cycles. PROBLEM SOLVED.

-.-

You're clearly not raiding, go talk about Crushbone.

[karsten]

hmm, you both make valid points. perhaps the solution in that case is, for example, to have a weekly roll-off and let guilds pick their desired target for that week based on how well they roll? that would let certain guilds go for targets that they know they can kill and thus get around the problem of certain guilds not being able to down certain raid bosses.

[logiktrip]

I would like to see a rotation at least attempted again, this time with more than two guilds involved in it. The only reason I believe it was ended when it did was because there were more guilds coming up to raid -- a pretty poor excuse. It was essentially a head-start on the racing, since those guilds had a gear and experience advantage over any others wanting to raid those targets. Now with the timers, these up and coming guilds get one shot -- if they're lucky. The original rotation guilds were not under such pressure.

It's worth a shot I believe, I don't think the previous rotation was given enough of a chance with more guilds.

I wouldn't mind leaving Maestro or Draco off of a rotation, to leave some FFA mobs to race for.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by CPTMULLER [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're clearly not raiding, go talk about Crushbone.

Yeah, you're right, I've never raided in any game ever. Please quit trolling with your internet tough-guy ePeen nonsense.

[Desert]

Originally Posted by CPTMULLER [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

until you've experienced the end game here, don't try to talk about it... it's something you have to see for yourself

I was commenting on what Karsten said. Take it for what it is. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]